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    First Cycle, Opinions?

    hey guys, as the title says i'm in the process of organizing my first cycle and have a couple questions i'm hoping you guys here at ar can shed some light on. i'm currently twenty-two and one hundred seventy-two pounds (bf % unknown but don't feel it's anything over 18%). i've been working out six days a week for the past six months and understand the importance of a good diet - with that said am looking to hit two hundred pounds before summer so have slowly been putting all the pieces together. is there any conditioning i should do prior to starting my cycle? also are the amounts relatively conservative? any comments and/or criticism would greatly be appreciated, i'm a little paranoid but overall know it'll be worth it.

    any recommendations on what pct as well as dosage? i'm thinking nolva or clomid but am unsure how much. please don't flame, new to the whole scene and while i've been searching know everyone is different and don't want to end up dead ...


    Test-E 300mg/week (weeks 1-10)
    Hdrol 50mg/ed (weeks 1-4)
    Milk Thistle 200mg/ed (weeks 1-4)

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    That's a pretty low test dose how tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That's a pretty low test dose how tall are you?
    i'm 5'8", do you think upping the dose to 400mg/week would be ideal? i hear people receive heart palpitations when on so would like to try and minimize that as much as possible ... IF possible

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    You should not have heart palpitations from test. I think 500mg is an ideal starting point especially for trying to bulk as much as you want to. It's your call if you want to try lower doses just don`t expect a miracle from a really low dose test cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    You should not have heart palpitations from test. I think 500mg is an ideal starting point especially for trying to bulk as much as you want to. It's your call if you want to try lower doses just don`t expect a miracle from a really low dose test cycle.
    alright so i won't have heart palpitations? i did when taking jack3d but then that contain phentermine ... will the hdrol be fine to cycle with? what about pct and dosing?

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    I have never messed with pro-hormones so I can`t comment on the hdrol. PCT should be both Nolva and Clomid.

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    You being only 22 and your lack of size and knowledge might get you in some trouble with AAS, you might want to read a lot more here especially in the training and nutrition sections here and hold off a little while before jumping on the juice!!... Just my 2 cents! Good luck bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I have never messed with pro-hormones so I can`t comment on the hdrol. PCT should be both Nolva and Clomid.
    maybe i'll just run test-e alone, think that'll suffice?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyD View Post
    You being only 22 and your lack of size and knowledge might get you in some trouble with AAS, you might want to read a lot more here especially in the training and nutrition sections here and hold off a little while before jumping on the juice!!... Just my 2 cents! Good luck bro.
    trouble as in death or addiction etc? i joined to read man thanks for the input though, much appreciated it ... i was going to start in march so i could gain some size before summer.

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    I think Test E alone is a great cycle, at 500mg/week you will have alot of fun with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I think Test E alone is a great cycle, at 500mg/week you will have alot of fun with it.
    sorry to be repetitive but what would proper pct dosage and scheduling be? i know a nurse that's agreed to do the injecting so at least i don't need to worry about that aspect of it.

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    The way I run my pct is like this:
    starting 2 weeks after last test shot:

    weeks 1-2 Clomid 50mg ed, Nolva 40mg ED
    weeks3-4 Clomid 25mg ed, Nolva 20mg ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    The way I run my pct is like this:
    starting 2 weeks after last test shot:

    weeks 1-2 Clomid 50mg ed, Nolva 40mg ED
    weeks3-4 Clomid 25mg ed, Nolva 20mg ED
    awesome, thank you so much!

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    I run my clomid a little higher but that's a good pct imo
    Last edited by gearbox; 02-14-2012 at 09:10 AM.

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    I run my clomid a little higher but that's a good pct imo



    Yeah, i used to until the notebook incident^^

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