what type of syringe do I need?

[lifthardgethard]

Starting my cycle of deca and test e next tuesday and just wondering what type of pins I need? Also, when you buy your pins at the pharmacy do they usually ask you why you are buying them for and what do you tell them? Lastly, do I need to ask for a drawing pin as well?

[gixxerboy1]

depends on what state you are in if you can buy them at a local pharm. If not order them from ar-r.
I use a 25g 1inch pin for every injection, i order 23g tips to draw with

[Stickman123]

I use 18g 1.5" to draw and 23g 1" to inject.

[jasc]

Ar-r is the easiest.. Pharmacy's can be a bitch.. I looked up law's in my state and they clearly state that a prescription is NOT required for slin pins.
With that being said, I've been to quite a few diff pharm's around here and every one requires a prescription for slin pins.

Typical scenario, keep in mind I am well spoken n typically go in in my work clothes (suit n tie).
Me: I'd like to purchase a box of BD u100 insulin syringes.
Them: Do you have a prescription?
Me: No
Them: What is your reason for purchasing them.
Me: My gf is diabetic and has run out of syringes.
Them: I'm sorry sir, you need a prescription.
Me: I was under the impression that in the state of xx a prescription is not required.
Them: Let me get/ask my supervisor.
Them: You are right, however, company policy requires one. (this answer usually varies n I get some type of bs response)

[BBrian]

Not to mention the fact that AR-R's pins are typically far less expensive than those being sold at local pharmacies. Shipping time to me (Kentucky) is typically 4 business days.

[gixxerboy1]

Ar-r is the easiest.. Pharmacy's can be a bitch.. I looked up law's in my state and they clearly state that a prescription is NOT required for slin pins.
With that being said, I've been to quite a few diff pharm's around here and every one requires a prescription for slin pins.

Typical scenario, keep in mind I am well spoken n typically go in in my work clothes (suit n tie).
Me: I'd like to purchase a box of BD u100 insulin syringes.
Them: Do you have a prescription?
Me: No
Them: What is your reason for purchasing them.
Me: My gf is diabetic and has run out of syringes.
Them: I'm sorry sir, you need a prescription.
Me: I was under the impression that in the state of xx a prescription is not required.
Them: Let me get/ask my supervisor.
Them: You are right, however, company policy requires one. (this answer usually varies n I get some type of bs response)

i agree. In Texas i had no problems never a question on any pin i bought. In florida here they are legal but for some reason alot of stores have company policies that are strict. I found walmart is the easiest place to buy

[Shol'va]

I'm partial to the BD brand. And the tips are interchangeable so I draw with the 18g, and just switch out the tip from a 23g and am ready to go. So I buy extra BD tips as well.

[Stosh_112]

Sorry for bumping in but.. First time ive heard or read about drawing with diff tips? Any explanations? Im still in my learning process.

[russian434]

will 18g or 21g work better to withdraw and and 21g or 23g to inject cuz i can only get those !

[stpete]

Iuse 18g to draw and 23g 1" to pin.

[AD]

Sorry for bumping in but.. First time ive heard or read about drawing with diff tips? Any explanations? Im still in my learning process.

draw with a fat needle so you dont tire your fingers. switch to a smaller, fresh needle to pin so its less painful.

[< <Samson> >]

Great info, that was going to be my 1st question.

[DGK]

inch and a half 23 gauge to draw and inject.. never an issue.

[600@50]

B-D 22 gauge 1 1/2" to draw and inject. Used an 18 gauge to draw for awhile. Just use the same needle now.

[BBrian]

A great reason for using a different needle to draw with than what you use to inject with is for the desire to have the sharpest needle possible for injections. These needles are so small and so sharp that even pushing it through the rubber stopper of a bottle is enough to dull the tip of the needle, which in turns creates a slightly more painful injection through the muscle and skin, and in turn to a small degree has the potential to increase scar tissue. From my experiences it's enough to notice the difference when I stick myself with a needle that hasn't already been pushed through something. I use an 18 gauge simply for the sake of a quick draw, and I find that a 23 gauge is the perfect compromise between ease of injection and ease of pushing oil through the needle. I've tried injecting with a 22g before, but compared to a 23g it was just too painful, and it made me feel like I was creating far too much scar tissue. Many others such as gixxer prefer a 25 gauge however, which could only prove to be even less painful when injecting. But I definitely would not want to draw with a 25g, that would just be too slow for me.

[Shol'va]

Agreed^^^^^^^ And it is so simple and easy just to swap out needle heads (tips). So you just use an 18 gauge complete with tip and draw with it, then when you get the amount used to inject just pull a little air through to clear any test in the tip and then just put the cap on the tip and twist the tip off and twist on the brand new 23 gauge needle tip and your gtg.

[Stosh_112]

Makes sense, thanks fellas.

[Cloudarella]

Any suggestions on needle length? 1 1/2 inch sufficient for IM?

[Bio-Active]

Any suggestions on needle length? 1 1/2 inch sufficient for IM?

depends on how lean you are and were you are pinning. I don't ever need more than a 1 inch pin but I use insulin pins for eod injections

[Cloudarella]

depends on how lean you are and were you are pinning. I don't ever need more than a 1 inch pin but I use insulin pins for eod injections

Thank you, I really appreciate the advice!

[bigbuilder250]

I draw with a 16g, and shoot with a variety. Depends where you are injecting, 25g/5/8" works well on delts and lats. Insulin needles work great on bi and tri injections, even rear delts. 21g/ 1.5" works great on rear end injections.