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02-16-2012, 11:41 AM #1
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problem with cycle and the Missus!!
I'm into my 12 week of a cycle of sus. Everything was going fine until my wife found my stash and flipped. As I'm also currently experiencing testicular shrinkage from the aas she is disgusted with what I'm doing and refuses to come near me until I stop and my nuts return to normal. I'm finishing out my cycle of 16 weeks and want to know if taking hcg of 2500iu once a week over 2 weeks plus tamaxifen and natural test boosters after the course if everything will return to normal? Or is my pct wrong? An experienced athlete recommended this pct. Pct to begin 18 days after last shot.
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02-16-2012, 11:46 AM #2
I think we could help if you logically lay out your complete cycle plan from bwggining to finish including pct. Also include your stats.
From a moral point of view I would just scrap the cycle, run a proper pct and be done with it. No point to ruin a marriage over a cycle imo
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02-16-2012, 11:49 AM #3
I would use the HCG durring your cycle..... your nuts should return to a normal size again and this will greatly aid recovery when you come off. Here's what I would do....
250iu's HCG 2-3x a week for the duration of the cycle up till week 17
Nolvadex over 4 weeks 40/40/40/20
Clomid over 4 weeks 100/50/50/50
I'm giving this advice based on the fact that you are married (not overly young) and I'm assuming you were ready to cycle. I was in a similar situation with my wife..... I hid it and she never knew. I'd hate to see a marriage get destroyed over a cycle but my marriage had other problems so I saw no need to stop doing what I love.
~Haz~Last edited by Hazard; 02-16-2012 at 11:52 AM.
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02-16-2012, 11:57 AM #4
I'd run a proper pct. Nolvadex and either Clomid or Torem for 4-6 wks. That will give you the best chance of a full recovery.
The hcg will help the boys go back to normal size. Can't advise on doses that high for 2 wks since I have not used it like that. I think you'd be better off starting the hcg now n running it up until a few days before pct. Dose would somewhat depend on amt of hcg you have, but 250 e3d or 2x/wk would be a good starting point.
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02-16-2012, 12:01 PM #5
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Hazards PCT advice is spot on and so is his marriage advice. My advice is to not only educate yourself on AAS but to educate your wife as well. I think if she fully understands why your taking AAS and how it works she might feel more comfortable with you cycling.
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02-16-2012, 12:05 PM #6
Agree with this, on all points.
She is keeping her eye on you now, so try and minimize the effect your PCT has on her. The less normal you are, the more she is going to be mad and feel betrayed. Maybe you should stop now and try to have a rational discussion with her about this. And by "rational discussion" I don't mean try and explain why you are going to continue. Marriage is a team sport.
The silver lining: she cares about your health, doesn't want you lying and probably feels nervous that you could get in legal trouble. These are all good things for a wife to feel...it just doesn't seem like it because it gets in the way of what you want.
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02-16-2012, 12:37 PM #7
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Thanks for all the support so far and advice. I need to know now if I should taper my dose down over the next week or so, from 1 ml, 3/4,1/2,1/4 and stop or can i just stop now? I always was informed that its dangerous to just stop point blank.? If I decide to start hcg now, will I do this on same day as I pin?
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02-16-2012, 01:53 PM #8
No need to taper.
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02-16-2012, 03:08 PM #9
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thats what i did and she was compleatly ok with it...as she says "having a fit husband dosent suck"....and i have to be honest after 18 years together we are still having sex 3 times a week...i got lucky though i truly found my soulmate...she tottaly gets me and what im about and never questions anything because she trusts me, and i her....so yea man educate her...good advise...
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02-16-2012, 04:02 PM #10
Here's some more food for thought.....
Not sure how old you are..... but if ANY women, from now on, tell me I can't doit - theyre gone. If i'm ever married again and it happens like it did to me last time (she was ok with it till we got married) - then my ass is hitting the HRT doc and i'll have a prescription for testosterone injections. She can't do a damn thing if it's being medically prescribed to you!Also.... she will more than likely not notice the extra cc or two you do each week ontop of your hrt dosage lmao.
~Haz~
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02-16-2012, 04:03 PM #11
Do you need to be on the sus for 16 weeks? 10-12 is plenty from my understanding. If you stopped now your wife may be much more understanding and ready to talk. Just make sure your PCT is in order.
It is a bummer about balls shrinkage, but you've come too close to the line on that. Should have been prepared for before you started.
Maybe using HCG right now up until your PCT may help, not sure, others will have to advice on this.
At least it's all out in the open. I've had issues with my girlfriend too. Patience patience patience. Don't forget, she has probably been fed the same crap we all do from the media. Will be a nice little test (no pun intended) for your relationship.
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