does deca help with joints that much and how much is needed to help

**freak1** · 02-16-2012, 09:59 PM

hey guys so i was just curious how good does deca help joints and is it really worth it and whats the minimum amount per wk you guys would run to help with joints? ty in advance

**hankdiesel** · 02-16-2012, 10:02 PM

It has never helped with with my joints.

**gearbox** · 02-16-2012, 10:10 PM

250-300mgs a week is lowest I would run

**kelkel** · 02-16-2012, 10:23 PM

I ran 200mg for 10 weeks. Helped me alot. Look forward to doing it again in the spring.

**reporich** · 02-16-2012, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox;5***501

250-300mgs a week is lowest I would run

This worked good for me.

**testfeind123** · 02-16-2012, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel;5***479

It has never helped with with my joints.

it porb doesnt help much if your joints are already good..im curious about trying deca ..ive had four knee surgies and still get lots of pain

**Deen54** · 02-17-2012, 01:05 PM

t helps joints alot..whenever i do heavy shoulder shrugs..i get a pain from my elbow down to my finger... when i'm on deca it goes away... once i stop deca the pain comes back.

**freak1** · 02-17-2012, 02:29 PM

thx for all the input guys .ive decided to run 400 mg a wk along with the 600 test e .

**swm1972** · 02-17-2012, 02:32 PM

Even if it does. Pain is a signal to you letting you know something is wrong. Do you really want to mask the pain and possibly cause more damage? It's a vicious cycle. My mother ended up with a reconstructed shoulder due to Cortosteroid injections masking the pain. Giving your body time to rest and heal would be the best way of handling it.

Good luck bro.

Btw. I've had decent results from aflutop. Google it.

**freak1** · 02-17-2012, 02:48 PM

well i just dont waqnt to use it for joints.heard its a good anabolic to run along side test . synergy!!!

**choker28** · 02-17-2012, 03:04 PM

for me it was a God send i only did 1ml/100mg for 12 week healed my elbow ,but 4 weeks after coming off i could feel the pain returning .so waited another 8 weeks and went again at the same dose same result great while your on it but but does not seem to cure the problem ,that just my experiences

**markdbg** · 02-17-2012, 03:44 PM

i have always hated deca ... never got much outta it. running 1200mg a week to put it to rest, if it doesnt go good im done with deca for good.

**BigGuy90** · 02-17-2012, 04:14 PM

1200mg of deca /wk??

**Revelations** · 02-17-2012, 04:34 PM

I was looking more into the Deca to run along with Test also because it is suppose to help out with joint pain. I figured the pain would come back once off cycle also.

**swm1972** · 02-17-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuy90

1200mg of deca/wk??

I agree. I've never gone over 750ms a week with deca and even that was higher then I should have gone.

**alexISthrowed** · 02-17-2012, 05:11 PM

A lot of the older guys I talk to swear by deca for their joints, I don't really have much joint pain so I can't tell if it helps or not.

**gearbox** · 02-17-2012, 09:40 PM

yes deca helps with joints...not everyone has the same results..mant take deca when they have a mild injury thinking it will go away and did does not. so they think deca does not work...(speaking from guys around my gym)

**BBrian** · 02-18-2012, 04:07 AM

I wouldn't agree that deca masks joint pain in any form, because masking simply the wrong term. This should be used when referring to pain killers, acetaminophen, etc. Deca aids in the recovery process, so the diminishing of pain is actually as a result of the joint healing. With or without prior/current injury, deca is an incredible compound because it also prevents injury from occurring in the first place. If you're on a cycle and pushing much heavier weights than what your joints and tendons are accustomed to, you are suddenly more prone to injury than you were prior to the cycle. By stacking deca in the mix, you are counter-acting this problem, and are much less likely to injure yourself. I have also used deca with GREAT results for healing injuries and strains in my shoulders, wrists, elbows, knees, and it even cures the clicking and pain associated with my TMJ up until the point that I stop taking it. Then the TMJ symptoms return, but not until around 3-6 months later. For the other joints, however, it healed them permanently, or until I injured a joint again by means of a completely new incident, like from a martial-arts fight. I swear by deca and it is the compound, aside from test, that I recommend more than anything else.

**ScotchGuard02** · 02-18-2012, 08:58 AM

I got bumm joints. Had knee surgery 30+ years ago and have been bone to bone since then. Got tennis elbow, tendinitis, rotator problems, geez take me out and shoot me. I take low dose of deca (150mg/wk) + low dose Test (200mg/wk) for 12 weeks and my joints feel super. Deca and even Test in low doses has shown to moisturize collagen in the joints. Large doses like 500mg/wk will not do the same. Taking low dose of deca and high dose of Test seems lessen the overall collageniztion in the joints. I'm a deca/test fan for making my joints feel better. A few of us in the geezer club, over 50, swear by the deca/test combo for joints.

**Misery13** · 02-18-2012, 02:53 PM

I've had great results for my joints with 100mg every other week.

**swm1972** · 02-18-2012, 03:16 PM

I've run deca and felt great but once coming off started having pain a few months later. That's why I felt it more masked the pain then healed it. Maybe I damaged it again. I'm not sure.

Aflutop on the other hand I feel definitely heals damage. One shot a day for 20 days straight and I experience drastic changes in mobility and the strength of my shoulder joints. I usually only have to run this about once every 12-18 months.

**stpete** · 02-18-2012, 03:22 PM

It helps. Anywhere between 400-600mgs seems to do the trick for me.

**jamotech** · 02-18-2012, 09:35 PM

I am on 150 week, it helped after only 3 weeks. I am surprised honestly, maybe my type of pain reaps the benefits more. Remember dosage can vary between human grade and ugl, not by much, but if your talking about using just enough for joint pain not an anabolic effect...

**lovbyts** · 02-19-2012, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by swm1972

I've run deca and felt great but once coming off started having pain a few months later. That's why I felt it more masked the pain then healed it. Maybe I damaged it again. I'm not sure.

Aflutop on the other hand I feel definitely heals damage. One shot a day for 20 days straight and I experience drastic changes in mobility and the strength of my shoulder joints. I usually only have to run this about once every 12-18 months.

I have been trying the Alflutops for almost 2 months with no results although I have been doing it ever 2 or 3 days, not every day.

**BBrian** · 02-19-2012, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I have been trying the Alflutops for almost 2 months with no results although I have been doing it ever 2 or 3 days, not every day.

Protocol for Aflutop is to inject once a day for 21 days. I have no idea what the dosage should be though without a doctor recommendation. It does have a cumulative effect and will become less effective through continual use, so it is best to halt injections for approximately one month before continuing use. I know a few people who have used it and were very pleased with the results for both minor and major joint problems. I also have heard of people cutting it with test while on cycle to lessen the pain of the injection. After a 21 days of administering, it's supposed to remain effective for 2-3 months, depending on the severity of the joint damage of course.

**lovbyts** · 02-19-2012, 01:42 AM

Pain? I have not felt ANY pain from it. I inject directly into the shoulder also. It was/is my first time doing shoulder injections. Mine came in ampules so I just use one each time, 1cc. I had read several protocols that said EOD but yes also seen ED. One thing I noticed when I did do it ED for a short time was it made me STINK. Ever get some on your hands? It stinks like fish, stinky fish. LOL When I did it a few days in a row I smelled the same anywhere I would sweat.

Well I will give it a go again doing it ED. I got nothing to loose at this point except canceling my rotator cuff surgery planned in a few weeks.

**BBrian** · 02-19-2012, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Pain? I have not felt ANY pain from it. I inject directly into the shoulder also. It was/is my first time doing shoulder injections. Mine came in ampules so I just use one each time, 1cc. I had read several protocols that said EOD but yes also seen ED. One thing I noticed when I did do it ED for a short time was it made me STINK. Ever get some on your hands? It stinks like fish, stinky fish. LOL When I did it a few days in a row I smelled the same anywhere I would sweat.

Well I will give it a go again doing it ED. I got nothing to loose at this point except canceling my rotator cuff surgery planned in a few weeks.

Some people have complained about the pain. But then some people complain about the pain when shooting glutes, and yet those never hurt me. Go figure. Anyway, yeah, Alfutop contains in 1 ml: 10 mg sea fish bioactive concentrate. That's a good nose you got thar. You should just pile an ungodly amount of cologne on top of it, really drives the women crazy.

**Dr Pepper** · 02-19-2012, 04:26 AM

Iv just started a test/Deca cycle. Got pretty bad tendonitis in my left elbow. Already after two weeks I'm starting feel some relief... Running 400mg a week

**lovbyts** · 02-19-2012, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by BBrian

Some people have complained about the pain. But then some people complain about the pain when shooting glutes, and yet those never hurt me. Go figure. Anyway, yeah, Alfutop contains in 1 ml: 10 mg sea fish bioactive concentrate. That's a good nose you got thar. You should just pile an ungodly amount of cologne on top of it, really drives the women crazy.

Yeah or take a shower 2 or 3x a day. Ive got dogs and cats following me around. I smell like I have been making it with flipper. LOL