First cycle (extreme newb)

[< <Samson> >]

Hi yall,

I have been researching the subject on my own for a few weeks now and it brought me here. This site has tons of extremely useful info on this. But, I still want to get a opinion from someone who is truly experienced.



This is what I found on this site as good 1st cycle.

12 Weeks of 400mgs of test(my source recommended Testosterone Enanthate) Is this good, great or what? But, I do trust his word a bit.
4 weeks+ of Dianabol at 20 mgs/day (this sounds good, since I have seen a lot of members use this in a beginner stack)

But, he recommended the first(Testoster one Enanthate) but at 500mgs per week
and
Boldenone Undecylenate at 400mgs per week


Hmm? I really don't know much about his stack compared to what I have read. It seems like a lot to me. . . . I think.


I currently weigh right at 180Lbs with about 15% BF. I am extremely weak when it comes to any sort of drug/medication. I typically take half of the recommended dose and it hits me just as hard as the full dose does to the guy next to me. Yet, I am at full health without any known health issues and had all blood work done about a year back.


Like many other things I have learned that too little is better then too much. I can always ramp up my dosages, right?

And last but not least is the PCT/Gyno Blocking help. He did not mention anything about it surprisingly. Also the extreme beginner cycle on this board does not mention it either. But, from what I understand Clomid is a must as PCT when you stop the cycle. Also Nolvadex is a must to keep on hand to keep Gyno down just in case if it does become evident any time during cycle.


This is where I need a expert, since this is not just BS sups we are talking about here.



Thank you for your time. . . . I wish I could have done more research and found out 100% of the necessary information. But, without the above I don't want to jump in head first without knowing all the steps 100%.

[MickeyKnox]

you need to do a LOT more reading man..seriously. you talk about these compounds like they're some sort of candy. "this sounds good.." you need to understand what each compound does, and WHY. it's also important to understand the side effects to develop a comprehensive protocol to ensure your recover as quickly as possible. it's not as easy as throwing together some "good" sounding names/ideas just because it seems to be popular.

bury yourself into the Educational Threads and Stickies and read a lot more until you fully understand what these compounds do and the effects they can cause in your body, including your CNS. there's no magic pill bro..

good luck.

[< <Samson> >]

you need to do a LOT more reading man..seriously. you talk about these compounds like they're some sort of candy. "this sounds good.." you need to understand what each compound does, and WHY. it's also important to understand the side effects to develop a comprehensive protocol to ensure your recover as quickly as possible. it's not as easy as throwing together some "good" sounding names/ideas just because it seems to be popular.

bury yourself into the Educational Threads and Stickies and read a lot more until you fully understand what these compounds do and the effects they can cause in your body, including your CNS. there's no magic pill bro..

good luck.

Well, I would love to. But, what am I missing?

[MickeyKnox]

this is what you're missing - start with these threads..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.TzkpD1F3k34

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.TzgpVFF3k34

[thex95]

What is your age, height, and training history?

[< <Samson> >]

What is your age, height, and training history?

Sorry about that

I am 31 and 5'10"

I been lifting weights for the last two+ years. Stopped about 7 months ago due to a bunch of moving and other BS. Picked up a month ago. Diet is solid, eating 3k+ cal per day.

[xo3et]

whats your weight and BF%?

Its recommended Test E ONLY as a first cycle, this way you can see how your body responds without complicating things. However you can run Dbol for the first 4weeks at 30mgs pday. Yor body, your call.

Your also need a PCT, nolva and Clomid. Its recommended to have an AI on hand in case you get side effects...

Above all
Do what MICKEYKNOX has said.

Good luck.

[< <Samson> >]

whats your weight and BF%?

Its recommended Test E ONLY as a first cycle, this way you can see how your body responds without complicating things. However you can run Dbol for the first 4weeks at 30mgs pday. Yor body, your call.

Your also need a PCT, nolva and Clomid. Its recommended to have an AI on hand in case you get side effects...

Above all
Do what MICKEYKNOX has said.

Good luck.

Cool, thanks a lot for the info.

I am still reading away. It's never bad to have too much info.

It's just hard picking out the pieces that actually work for me.

What about the dosage of Test? Do you think what I mentioned is too high?

Weight is 180+ and BF is about 15%+