First cycle

**CmyZFly** · 02-20-2012, 07:06 AM

Would Sus/Deca /Eq be a first good cycle ? I have been training for about 4 years. Would like some good advice about this stack. Also if you beg to differ , tell me why and what would you recommend?

Current Stats

183pounds
5"10
Training 4 years
Diet is on point to the tee

**The Bear 79** · 02-20-2012, 07:08 AM

Welcome CmyZFly. What is your body fat %? How old are you? What are you goals?

**CmyZFly** · 02-20-2012, 12:29 PM

My Body Fat is about 9%, I'm currently 23 years old and I'm looking to bulk. I weigh about 183 pounds to 185 pounds but that tends up go up and down...

**Bertuzzi** · 02-20-2012, 01:19 PM

First cycle, you should not be combining compounds.

**The Bear 79** · 02-20-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by CmyZFly

My Body Fat is about 9%, I'm currently 23 years old and I'm looking to bulk. I weigh about 183 pounds to 185 pounds but that tends up go up and down...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...9#.T0J18XksZX0 ........................ http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T0J2TXksZX0

**BBrian** · 02-20-2012, 01:59 PM

For a first cycle, it's predominantly recommended here to use testostereone by itself, and expand from there by stacking deca if you decide to cycle again. But if I can offer any other advice, don't spend your money on equipoise . The pros of it are very limited compared to almost anything else. It can stimulate appetite and improve vascularity, even add a couple pounds of mass, but it takes a very high dose for a full 12-14 weeks to see even that, making the investment a poor choice...in my opinion at least. I recommend 400-500mg of test enanthate or cypionate for a beginner, ranging 10-12 weeks in total, then followed with 4 weeks of PCT with a 2 week gap in the middle of the PCT and cycle.

**CmyZFly** · 02-21-2012, 04:37 PM

Thank you guys, this is very helpful I've been reading the forums everyday getting more and more information... anymore info would be glady appreciated

**CmyZFly** · 02-21-2012, 04:39 PM

the bear 79....thanks for those posts a lil disappointed but it won't set me back...i believe that I'm ready

**The Bear 79** · 02-21-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by CmyZFly

the bear 79....thanks for those posts a lil disappointed but it won't set me back...i believe that I'm ready

All the other 23 year old's that fvcked themselves up for life thought they were ready too. Good luck.

**dooie** · 02-21-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by CmyZFly

Would Sus/Deca /Eq be a first good cycle ? I have been training for about 4 years. Would like some good advice about this stack. Also if you beg to differ , tell me why and what would you recommend?

Current Stats

183pounds
5"10
Training 4 years
Diet is on point to the tee

Where did u get the info saying it would be a good first cycle? It's crazy the amount of people come on here proposing first cycles with 2-3 compounds.

I did a little cycle when I was 23, not worth it bro! Save ur money, learn, build a good solid base and get much better gains (n keep em)

**Bertuzzi** · 02-21-2012, 06:15 PM

Although I feel you are a littl young to use AAS... you're border line... 24 to 25 is more the point but everyone is different, only you can make the decision... is it worth it, or should you maybe wait on more year?

**BBrian** · 02-21-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by dooie

Where did u get the info saying it would be a good first cycle? It's crazy the amount of people come on here proposing first cycles with 2-3 compounds.

I did a little cycle when I was 23, not worth it bro! Save ur money, learn, build a good solid base and get much better gains (n keep em)

I think I've seen every combination possible being offered as a good first cycle by now, lol.

**CmyZFly** · 02-23-2012, 05:03 AM

Well thats why im here on the board asking if this was a good first cycle.. Ive done some research and honestly 23 is no different than 24 or 25 to me ... I believe i have enough lifting experience of about 4 1/2 to 5 years

**The Bear 79** · 02-23-2012, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by CmyZFly

Well thats why im here on the board asking if this was a good first cycle.. Ive done some research and honestly 23 is no different than 24 or 25 to me ... I believe i have enough lifting experience of about 4 1/2 to 5 years

You're just not getting it man, your "lifting experience" has nothing to do with your undeveloped systems, & your lifting experience wont do sh!t to stop your hormone production from shut down, possibly forever. The difference between 23 & 25 is 2 years & an undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA If there were no difference we wouldn't bother with the whole "you're too young, you should wait until you're 25" speech.

**alexISthrowed** · 02-23-2012, 11:35 AM

Always stick with test only for your first cycle. Any idea of what your bf% is? Bbrian layed it out pretty well for you, 400-500mg test e or c would be a good first cycle.

**Blergs** · 02-23-2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

Always stick with test only for your first cycle. Any idea of what your bf% is? Bbrian layed it out pretty well for you, 400-500mg test e or c would be a good first cycle.

agreed! i thinkl too young, BUT atleast only run 1 compound yoru first go around when you are ready. or atthe very least the 2nd be something very mild and short acting like provirion or tbol. but no i would say wait right now.

**Blergs** · 02-27-2012, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by CmyZFly

Well thats why im here on the board asking if this was a good first cycle.. Ive done some research and honestly 23 is no different than 24 or 25 to me ... I believe i have enough lifting experience of about 4 1/2 to 5 years

thats not the point, are you done growing, have yoru growthplates closed.
if not then using aas will do that and mess up your development, on top of puberty development, ley the sex organs be FULLY developed before you go screwing with them man.

I rec waiting the extra 1-2 years. its gonan take many yewar to put on decent muscle, even with steroids , so why not just wait a bit longer?