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    check my cycle

    hey guys, just started my cycle and i wanted to see what you all thought about it.
    im 27yrs old, 5'll'' 235lbs 20%bf.

    sustanon 750/week-14weeks
    deca 600/week-12weeks
    introduce nolva at week 4-14 10mcg
    clen 3weeks on two off using benadryl on the 3rd week

    two weeks after last sus shot nolva 40mcg for 4weeks 10mcg for final week

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    Is this a first cycle?

    What is your reasoning for running nolva on cycle?

    Nolva is in mg not mcg

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    I wouldnt of started a cycle at 20% bf, without doubt your going to get some estrogen related sides. You really need to be around the 14% mark before cycling IMHO.

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    not my first but have not done a cycle like this in a good while. i figured i would use a small dose of nolva cuz i using a relatively high dose of test
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    i just recovered from an injury thats why at 20% im normaly walk around at 225 so i sould get to the 18% pretty fast.

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    ^ bad idea IMHO I wouldnt of started the cycle unless you was 14% or under.

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    are you trying to use the benadryl to stimulate receptors to allow clen to be ran longer? if so then this is an outdated method and ineffective, look into ketoifen

    what is your planned pct and is this your first cycle? my bad just re-read, you need to include clomid in your pct especially since your running a 19nor (deca )
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    yes that was the idea for the benadryl. thanks all look that up. is ketoifen over the counter? pct is above with five weeks of nolva

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    doing a cycle at 14%bf cant be right. many ppl with much higher use gear. i.e. powerlifters, football players ect.

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    THe dosage of your test does not explain why you plan on running Nolva during your cycle. An AI would be a much better choice

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    how would i use the clomid? i can get it. i thought clomid was inferior to nolva and only used as a secondary

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    Quote Originally Posted by War729 View Post
    doing a cycle at 14%bf cant be right. many ppl with much higher use gear. i.e. powerlifters, football players ect.
    At higher BF% you run a higher risk of estrogenic sides.

    Competing in something gives them more of a reason to cycle at higher BF% but it doesnt put them at any less of a risk

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    so me being at a higher bf% what do u advise to suplement with. an AI? also i thought a good amount of estro is good for gains with sus

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    High levels of estrogen result in more negative effects than positives.

    Rather than an AI i would advise you to cut some fat before cycling. It will only help you

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    Quote Originally Posted by War729
    doing a cycle at 14%bf cant be right. many ppl with much higher use gear. i.e. powerlifters, football players ect.
    You are right many people are. This does not mean we will advise them to run a cycle. There dealing with more sides, bp issues that can lead to heart attack. And someome with high bf % usually shows a diet and cardio issue and to truely benefit from aas those to need to be in check.

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    would the negative estroen effects be visable or internal? cuz ive ran a cycle like this before and didnt even get acne. also as far the ai would an over the counter be ok or should i get something a lil harder?
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    When you have a high bf % it increases the conversion factor of testosterone to estrogen, this will increase the sides related to high estrogen. You can also be more likely to higher water retention sides and increased BP when you have a higher BF %. Fat cell receptors have more of an affinity to aromatising so if you have more fat cells than you have more of a chance estrogen related sides. You will also see an increase in bf along side water retention and IMHO I'd cut your bf over the next few months down to 14% or under, you will be in a far better position to cycle then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War729 View Post
    would the negative estroen effects be visable or internal? cuz ive ran a cycle like this before and didnt even get acne
    They can be both visible and internal

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