getting first cycle tomorrow...need a little advice

[stb103]

lol yes typo i have 22 and 23 gauge.

[gearbox]

you are using 22 or 23 g to pin. I draw with a 23g and pin with a 25g. pain was considerably less for me when using a 25 g needle.

[Blergs]

after alot of reading and your valued input im not going to over do it for first time. im getting sust tomorrow and will do just that to be safe. ive read the topic to see if its fake and will apply that before the purchase. any aditional information as to what to look for to be certain its legit would be helpful. how do i know if the price is high or not? after reading multiple post i think the pin i need is 30 ml barrel abd inch and a half pin is this correct? and using the glute and quad is there a specific area where i should use? and lastly this may sound dumb but when the time comes for pct i know nov and comid seems to be the choice products, are these as hard to find and the sust was or can i get online.....not sure of the legal issues with these products. thanks again guys, learned alot from you and will continue to learn.

YES it matters and there is! It would be VERY VERY OH MY LORD VERY ...PAINFUL to hit the nerve running down the middle of your ass cheek. It would be crippling!
I’m not trying to scare you. I did a glut shot not long ago. But you have to know what you’re doing...

here is a link that may help:

Glute: http://www.howtodoinjections.com/IM/glutes.html

Delt: http://www.howtodoinjections.com/IM/delts.html (I rec middle delt)

And I say don’t bother with quad shots, there’s lots of veins there and I found it too much. Gluts and delts.
For glutes use a mirror you can stand in front of. It helps to see.

[Blergs]

you are using 22 or 23 g to pin. I draw with a 23g and pin with a 25g. pain was considerably less for me when using a 25 g needle.

same, but for glutes i rec 23 1.5" for delts 1" 25g.

[Blergs]

23 is fine for genral though so if only that no worries.

[BBrian]

YES it matters and there is! It would be VERY VERY OH MY LORD VERY ...PAINFUL to hit the nerve running down the middle of your ass cheek. It would be crippling!
I’m not trying to scare you. I did a glut shot not long ago. But you have to know what you’re doing...

here is a link that may help:

Glute: http://www.howtodoinjections.com/IM/glutes.html

Delt: http://www.howtodoinjections.com/IM/delts.html (I rec middle delt)

And I say don’t bother with quad shots, there’s lots of veins there and I found it too much. Gluts and delts.
For glutes use a mirror you can stand in front of. It helps to see.

I have to seriously disagree. The quadriceps are my favorite places to inject, hands down. It's been shown that larger muscles are able to absorb compounds much more efficiently than smaller ones. I can only guess that the factor involves how much more bloodflow there is in the quad and glute compared to a smaller muscle such as the delt or tricep. Also, when we're injecting every day or every other day, only using the glutes and delts is NOT going to cut it. If you don't space out your injection sites enough, you end up with too much scar tissue and pools of oil that will negate absorption. There are so many places on the quad that I inject it is ridiculous. I started out using only two places on each quad, but now I probably use somewhere around five places on each quad, and I have no problems with hitting veins or nerves. The only time this has happened was about a year and a half ago when I got too close to the sciatic nerve on my left quad, but that was because I just pinned too close to the side, when I should have been focusing on the outer corner of my thigh. I inject test, deca, HCG, and Vitamin B12, and I inject every day. If it weren't for the diversity of injection sites that my quads offered, I'd be in serious trouble.

[gixxerboy1]

i have no issue with the quads either. I've never had a problem with the nerves and last week was the first time ever that i got blood when i aspirated in the quad

[BBrian]

i have no issue with the quads either. I've never had a problem with the nerves and last week was the first time ever that i got blood when i aspirated in the quad

Yeah, in 12 years I've only ever had this problem once, and I think it was actually in the glute of all places.

[stb103]

i only have used quads(did 3 shots so far) ive been using about 6 inches above knee, out side, well inbetween the front above knee and side so a angle i guess. i aspirate and no problems so far,. scared to do delt, the diagram is a huge guy and my delts arent that big haha...scared to mess up. cant do ass alone especially for first time. so quads it is...unless i can figure the delt thing out.

[stb103]

heres a pic ...im pointing to my front delt(i believe lol) was told thats a tricky spot to use, and to use side delt....where is it?

[gixxerboy1]

yes thats your front delt. Your delts are plenty big enough to inject into
its hard from that angle but between the 2nd and 3rd letters of your tat

[stb103]

thanks again gixxerboy!

[Blergs]

I have to seriously disagree. The quadriceps are my favorite places to inject, hands down. It's been shown that larger muscles are able to absorb compounds much more efficiently than smaller ones. I can only guess that the factor involves how much more bloodflow there is in the quad and glute compared to a smaller muscle such as the delt or tricep. Also, when we're injecting every day or every other day, only using the glutes and delts is NOT going to cut it. If you don't space out your injection sites enough, you end up with too much scar tissue and pools of oil that will negate absorption. There are so many places on the quad that I inject it is ridiculous. I started out using only two places on each quad, but now I probably use somewhere around five places on each quad, and I have no problems with hitting veins or nerves. The only time this has happened was about a year and a half ago when I got too close to the sciatic nerve on my left quad, but that was because I just pinned too close to the side, when I should have been focusing on the outer corner of my thigh. I inject test, deca, HCG, and Vitamin B12, and I inject every day. If it weren't for the diversity of injection sites that my quads offered, I'd be in serious trouble.

I some what agree, pinning too often in same spot can lead to a steril absess and can turn septic over tiem if you dotn stop pinnign there and allowing whats there to dessolve and absorb.
but for me I hit:
front delt
mid delt
glutes

for me thats nuff.
I will agree that you may need more. I was doing primo 900mg ew (thats alot of oil) + 500mg teste. and I ended up starting to develop a sterile absess in my glute. ( I was using mid delts and gluts)
how do I know? well one day about 13 weeks in I aspirated white stuff came out. I ended cycle for 2 month sticking with only 500mg teste ew..
at the time I did not ever pin front delts.
now I am doign somthing simaler but only using 500mg ew primo, 200mg maste ew, 250mg teste ew and 50-100mg anadrol ed (6wks).

you DEFF have to not pin too often or TO much int he same spot. this I agree. but I still dont like quad shots, maybe I have more vains in leg then you or there bigger, not sure. but I hope I dont meet the day I need to keep pinning them. one cycle was nuff for me.

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heres a pic ...im pointing to my front delt(i believe lol) was told thats a tricky spot to use, and to use side delt....where is it?

thats the front delt and I only sterted to use that this year. it is small and tricky and i would not use more than 1ml in there. the side delt is right next to it.
here is link: http://www.brooksidepress.org/Produc...MInjection.htm

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heres a pic ...im pointing to my front delt(i believe lol) was told thats a tricky spot to use, and to use side delt....where is it?

and I agree use the side/middle delt.

[BBrian]

I some what agree, pinning too often in same spot can lead to a steril absess and can turn septic over tiem if you dotn stop pinnign there and allowing whats there to dessolve and absorb.
but for me I hit:
front delt
mid delt
glutes

for me thats nuff.
I will agree that you may need more. I was doing primo 900mg ew (thats alot of oil) + 500mg teste. and I ended up starting to develop a sterile absess in my glute. ( I was using mid delts and gluts)
how do I know? well one day about 13 weeks in I aspirated white stuff came out. I ended cycle for 2 month sticking with only 500mg teste ew..
at the time I did not ever pin front delts.
now I am doign somthing simaler but only using 500mg ew primo, 200mg maste ew, 250mg teste ew and 50-100mg anadrol ed (6wks).

you DEFF have to not pin too often or TO much int he same spot. this I agree. but I still dont like quad shots, maybe I have more vains in leg then you or there bigger, not sure. but I hope I dont meet the day I need to keep pinning them. one cycle was nuff for me.

Damn man, that sounds pretty scary. I've heard of others experiencing this and the prognosis was that it was actually dead white blood cells coming out as a result of an infection. You probably got lucky that it didn't turn gangrenous, unless you ended up on antibiotics that is, and assuming it was an infection.