getting first cycle tomorrow...need a little advice

[stb103]

after alot of reading and your valued input im not going to over do it for first time. im getting sust tomorrow and will do just that to be safe. ive read the topic to see if its fake and will apply that before the purchase. any aditional information as to what to look for to be certain its legit would be helpful. how do i know if the price is high or not? after reading multiple post i think the pin i need is 30 ml barrel abd inch and a half pin is this correct? and using the glute and quad is there a specific area where i should use? and lastly this may sound dumb but when the time comes for pct i know nov and comid seems to be the choice products, are these as hard to find and the sust was or can i get online.....not sure of the legal issues with these products. thanks again guys, learned alot from you and will continue to learn.

[stpete]

Take a pic and post it in the picture forum. Make sure you black out anything regarding the lab. Nah, a 30ml barrel is a bit much. 3ml will do just fine. I'm just busting your balls, i know that was a typo.

[gixxerboy1]

you can get clomid and nolva from ar-r

[Stosh_112]

Good luck bro, how many weeks are u planning to run?

[lovbyts]

Get your PCT supplies BEFORE you start your cycle. If you have learned anything #1 is diet, #2 is to ALWAYS have all your gear (including PCT) on hand before you start.

[stb103]

thanks guys...as for length doing the slingshot 8 week reload 2 week deload 8 week reload 2 week deload with pct then start again.....and thanks for the ar-r ...wasnt going to start without pct but i have 18 weeks till needed. thanks again.

[lovbyts]

Yeah and we read post ever day from people who have it planned out perfectly like you then all of the sudden they dont know why their shipment is taking so long, if it got lost, seized or there supplier is out of product. Get it ahead of time, dont wait. ar-r had even ran out of product before and suspended sales so dont be another statistic.

[stb103]

i went to the site and couldnt find it, does it have a different name?

[marcus300]

thanks guys...as for length doing the slingshot 8 week reload 2 week deload 8 week reload 2 week deload with pct then start again.....and thanks for the ar-r...wasnt going to start without pct but i have 18 weeks till needed. thanks again.

No need to do a slingshot on your first cycle, its way to much. Stick with a standard 10-12 wk cycle at 500mgs with a solid pct.


What are your stats?

[stb103]

its too much? his article says its fine for first time. the more i read the more confusing this becomes. im 5,7 185lbs. good build found out bf is 15%

[marcus300]

Well imho I don't think its subtitle for a first timer. You don't need to be on cycle for 20 wks on your first run. It's way to long and its not needed.

[songdog]

I would listen to Marcus his advise is sound.Find out how you like and do on aas before you commit to doing aas year round.Beacuse it will have lasting effects when you quit.

[stb103]

ok so 12 weeks on 500mgs a week then 4 weeks of nolva correct? then if all goes well try slingshot.? just so im clear i do nolva daily for 4 weeks right? and while in pct no sust?

[gearbox]

not sure on your nolva daily question?
Get an ai from ar-r and clomid/nolva?

Listen to Marcus on the sling shot, that is way to long to be shut down your first time around. Sling shot is for people who are very serious about aas imo, and your likelyhood of being on trt for life increases a lot when running a cycle for that long. Also hcg is needed if you are running past 10-12 weeks. Many run it every cycle.
Get your ai
get nolva/clomid for pct (run for 4 weeks)

[gixxerboy1]

ok so 12 weeks on 500mgs a week then 4 weeks of nolva correct? then if all goes well try slingshot.? just so im clear i do nolva daily for 4 weeks right? and while in pct no sust?

slingshoting is for the advanced imo. And can be very hard to recover from.

you start the nolva 18 days after your last sust shot, i would get clomid and use that with the nolva.
please go read in the pct section. this is the most important part of your cycle

[JonnyConcrete]

you can get clomid and nolva from ar-r

Is that site legit? I just thought you weren't allowed to list sources....

[gixxerboy1]

Is that site legit? I just thought you weren't allowed to list sources....

yes they are legit, they are a sponsor of this site. They sell research chemicals that are legal

[stb103]

ive done as you told me to gixxerboy and slowed down to learn but in the pct stickies some say dont waste your time with clomid do nolva only others say the opposite. is clomid called something else on aar site? can i get hcg from there site ive read on here its hard to get? and my source gave me the duh look when i asked him...

[JonnyConcrete]

yes they are legit, they are a sponsor of this site. They sell research chemicals that are legal

Ah fair doos, thanks for clarifying.

[gixxerboy1]

ive done as you told me to gixxerboy and slowed down to learn but in the pct stickies some say dont waste your time with clomid do nolva only others say the opposite. is clomid called something else on aar site? can i get hcg from there site ive read on here its hard to get? and my source gave me the duh look when i asked him...

here is the link to the clomid on their site
http://www.ar-r.com/featured-product...l-35mg-ml.html
no they do not sell hcg . its not hard to find. use google my friend

[stb103]

thank you again. youve been great! i tried to saerch for ai and it wont let me says its too broad. is ai part of pct or during cycle, any suggestions on what to use? not much money left so the cheapest but effictive way would be great.

[stb103]

and lastly for now how many bottles of clomid and nolva is ok would 1 of each be ok

[gixxerboy1]

thank you again. youve been great! i tried to saerch for ai and it wont let me says its too broad. is ai part of pct or during cycle, any suggestions on what to use? not much money left so the cheapest but effictive way would be great.

ai is for during cycle to keep your estrogen in the normal range. a-dex would be your cheapest route, thats what i use also

and lastly for now how many bottles of clomid and nolva is ok would 1 of each be ok

1 bottle of each is enough for more then 1 pct.

[stb103]

ok thanks man your a big help ill order my clomid, nolva, and liquiddex now. im almost done bugging you, last question i googled what u said and found drops? does that sound right?

[gixxerboy1]

ok thanks man your a big help ill order my clomid, nolva, and liquiddex now. im almost done bugging you, last question i googled what u said and found drops? does that sound right?

no problem, glad i can help. check ar-r section on the board. i think they have some sales going on you may find a discount code.
No real hcg is injectable.

[stb103]

damn already ordered...lol oh well next time. not to push the issue but anything to look for in paticular when getting a hcg

[jasc]

damn already ordered...lol oh well next time. not to push the issue but anything to look for in paticular when getting a hcg

not really.. Injectable in powder form is about it.. most likely has to be ordered overseas since it requires a script in the U.S.

As far as your drops, read over the box. I bet in small letters somewhere it says "hormone free" in which case they are herbal alternatives. I've heard legit drops exist, but have never seen them.

[stb103]

yeah have no clue what or where to get, think ill skip rather than putting something in me that i dont know if its the right stuff....or any help if u could

[JonnyConcrete]

yeah have no clue what or where to get, think ill skip rather than putting something in me that i dont know if its the right stuff....or any help if u could

Tbh I'd be very cautious about buying HCG from some the sights you see on google lolz.

[stb103]

ok maybe in time when my post grow ill get some help, thanks again.

[Dmitri Diablo]

I've seen hcg that say "no water included". So is this a powder that needs to be mixed with bac water?

[gearbox]

I've seen hcg that say "no water included". So is this a powder that needs to be mixed with bac water?

yes, however they do sell premixed also.

[Dmitri Diablo]

So is mixing a pain in the ass?

[jasc]

I've seen hcg that say "no water included". So is this a powder that needs to be mixed with bac water?

yes.. any hcg you buy should be in powder form n you reconstitute it with bac water.
Once reconstituted it has a rather short shelf life, is sensitive to disturbances, and needs to be kept refrigerated n in the dark. So its rare to find someone selling it pre-mixed. If you see someone selling pre-mixed n it's not your local pharmacist avoid it.

[jasc]

So is mixing a pain in the ass?

very easy to mix

[Stosh_112]

What are ya lookin for?

[stb103]

hcg , was told to get it, i have everything else, my sust, liquiddex, clomid, and nolva. just missing this last piece of the puzzle to start.

[stb103]

can i run without it or should i wait?

[lovbyts]

You can run without but it's becoming a normal protocol for cycle. We live and learn. It's better to use it in most peoples opinions, kind of smooths everything out. Better overall well being and keeps the boys/balls working properly. Make recovery easier.

[saitou187]

umm i'm no expert but 30ml barrel isn't that pretty huge? did u mean 3ml?