Mental effects

[Nicole1126]

Hey guys...I just had some questions about the mental effects and your personal opinions. My b/friend of 3 years has started his second cycle one month ago.

He's taking test and tren and anavar and also hgh I believe? But a massive dosage of it. He isn't bodybuilding. Mostly doing it for strength and because "others are." He works out constantly and is in great shape. But, my main concern right now is he can't handle the side effects.

What I'm wondering is those of you that are taking them what do you expierence while taking them mentally?

He has the usual agitation and short temper but he starts to push me away and says he is stressed out and needs alone time but then he's fine again and it's like nothing ever happened. I know it's said that bipolarness is possible too. Is this normal? And if so, how do you make someone understand that?

He has admitted that he's thinking the steroids are affecting his attitude but doesn't do a thing about it. Just looking for answers on how to handle it the best way so the steroid use doesn't end this relationship.

And please no haters! Just a concerned and I care!

Thanks guys!

[gixxerboy1]

i honestly dont know what to tell you that will make him listen. Some of it maybe be related to dosages. Also tren has alot of side effect and make me very short tempered.

[Nicole1126]

I've heard that too from other friends of mine that have taken it. Just so damn frustrating. He's def VERY short tempered.

[alexISthrowed]

I'm on 700mg's of tren ace Yeah there is some irritability but you control yourself. People that cannot control themselves have no place using aas imo.

[Schmidty]

i have been told tht i become emotionally distant whenim on a heavy dose. People react to different drugs differently but he may just needto back off his dose of test, tren or both. The best advice i can give you is doint mind silence. seriously. just because he isnt saying sumthing does not mean he doesnt care or love you. so asking whats wrong or if hes ok over and over again will drive him insaine and away. just my experience... and if hes on tren i would hope hes cutting and has cut carbs so that alone makes people moody

[Schmidty]

im on 0 carb days more then half my week 0 fat all week and 2 mgs a day of methyltrienolone right now. I have the best and most supportive gf in the world,i could not ask for a better person to have. but being 3 weeks out for a show i still snap sum times, its going to happen sumtimes. i can even see myself doing it sumtimes. But shes cool about nottrying to poke and pry into me when i am feeling shitty from being exausted, knows when to back off but at the same time calls me out on being a fvcking prick when i take things to far. Its a hard balance to find. Im not saying roll over and be a submissive punk but know when to fight and when to let him be

[Nicole1126]

Thanks Schmidty. That makes me feel a million times better. Because he has said to me the constant is everything ok and the questions drive him insane. So, I really appreciate your response! Makes a lot of sense to me.

[cebby1985]

I'm on 700mg's of tren ace Yeah there is some irritability but you control yourself. People that cannot control themselves have no place using aas imo.

I couldn't agree w you more. It's just an excuse to be a prick or act tough. Just like the whole " I'm not fat, Im big boned" thing. I guess you either put up w it or tell him to get out

[xelnaga]

Releasing aggression is like taking a shit, your allowed to do it... in the appropriate place.

[alexISthrowed]

Releasing aggression is like taking a shit, your allowed to do it... in the appropriate place.

Call Of Duty, buy your man an xbox.

[xelnaga]

Call Of Duty, buy your man an xbox.

Yes. However, you may notice a slight increase in aggression for the first few months do to newbitis.

[Nicole1126]

Funny you say that. We play all the time. I actually play with him cause I think it's fun. Random. Lol.

[Times Roman]

Welcome to the board luv!

Tren does many things to many people. I have a job where I need to maintain my cool under stressful conditions. On tren, i began losing it.... always irritable..... and i was letting them push my button when i didn't want it to be pushed. I haven't tried it since. Probably will again though, but the timing must be right. I choose not to do it because it also affects how i treat people. I can see myself being irritable and grumpy, but do it anyways for some reason. And it wasn't anything but a moderate dose (about 300mg/week).

What I would suggest is to get him to sign up here just like you did. Tren for a rookie probably isn't a good idea (rookie meaning 2nd cycle). If he is a reasonable sort, he may see how his use of tren affects those around him. It sounds like he's a good guy, maybe just a little over his head on his cycle.

btw.... anavar could run a few hundred $$ a month. HGH, if he is taking it (is he pinning this 3x a day?), and depending on his dose, could easily run $1k/month, or a helluva lot more.... depending.

Let us know if you need anything else, ok?
---Roman

[Nicole1126]

Thanks for the welcome roman and I really appreciate the advice. He is by no means a bad guy. Just think that the stuff he's taking is getting the best of him which is such a shame. We have had some rough patches and are trying to patch things up so this stuff is kinda making itself a whole new issue.

My only issue now is hopefully he will understand and see the issue. I'll probably tell him to get on here and check it out and get some more advice. He does a lot of research anyways.

He is doing the hgh daily not three times a day. Again thanks Roman for the warm welcome!

[Bonaparte]

IMO he should just drop the Tren. That's what is causing it.
I don't see how taking Tren just to look good or whatever is worth losing your GF.

[Thunderforge]

IMO he should just drop the Tren. That's what is causing it.
I don't see how taking Tren just to look good or whatever is worth losing your GF.

Exactly. And yet. I think so many folks think, "well, it won't be that bad, it's only for a little while.", so they do it anyway, relying on the understanding of their partner. I'd say try it, see how it goes, finish your cycle, then really consider how worth it it was. I myself have a big interest in Tren but just don't know if I want to take the chance I'll be too short tempered. I may give it a go someday.

[MACKATTACK]

Also tren has alot of side effect and make me very short tempered.

I've heard that too from other friends of mine that have taken it. Just so damn frustrating. He's def VERY short tempered.

THIS IS a red flag answer. So you are trying to say you are a girl in her 20's and has a group of friends that have taken Tren.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Are you sure you don't have another screen name??

[bob87]

I am a short tempered person naturally so before I start my course the mrs and have agreed to monitor my behavior and if it starts to affect our relationship then it's time for pct.... My mrs is worth more then the juice.

[Bonaparte]

THIS IS a red flag answer. So you are trying to say you are a girl in her 20's and has a group of friends that have taken Tren.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Are you sure you don't have another screen name??

Or she's just into guys who are well built and use AAS...

[gixxerboy1]

THIS IS a red flag answer. So you are trying to say you are a girl in her 20's and has a group of friends that have taken Tren.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Are you sure you don't have another screen name??

any girl in my circle of friends would know guys that use tren.

[MACKATTACK]

Sorry just doesn't sound logical that she would get into indepth conversations with guys about their cycles. Something doesn't fit logically to me. I could always be wrong though.

[stpete]

My guess is that it's the Tren as well. As mentioned, it's not recommended for someone who only has one cycle under their belt. Dropping the tren would be ideal. Barring that, obviously how much he's using is a concern, but so is dosing frequency. A little more insight on those would help. Although he might be asking you questions if you all of a sudden become all knowledgeable on AAS and the correct way to use them. haha....My wife knows i use but she never asks dosages or anything like that. Thank God.

[analovz]

If you're bf is not that into you, then sooner or later he will dump you imo. My advice is to deal with him as if he werent taking any roids...and definitely not asking him if he's ok every 5 minutes...

[SexySweetheart]

can only speak from my experiance, but sometimes Tiger doesnt even realize when he is pissy or snippy or irritated. I just joke around with him about what ever is setting him off than point it out to him or if its real bad I tell him ta "knock it off your being a douch" lol and I give him lotts a space mostly cuz hes yuk to be around when hes like that (a rear thing)...my teen will be like "what hell is his problem" than he will mess with Tiger lol and realy get his goat till Tiger realizes how lame the whole thing is (this is funny as h3ll to watch)

so i dont know if your guy normaly has a sence of hummor and you can play with him when he gets tool-like..or if he is the type you just need to give a wide berth...but if it isnt that big of a deal for you, you will find what works best for you both <3 have patiance, dont neglect your own feelings and hay if its real bad just buy your self some new shoes everytime you dont wanna be near him...than have him look at your closet after 6months lol may put things in a diff perspective for him

keep in mind that it is prob a way of life for him...soooo dont count on any end in site. ask yourself how you feel on the bad days and if they start to become something you dred ~ well it may be time to have a serious talk with him on seeking proff help with anger managemnt or other mood management tech.
you dont wanna find your self in some weird cycle with him and the mood alter stuff he is using...booz drugs roids what ever it is

oh and WELCOME!!!

[Nicole1126]

Don't really understand the question about the screen name...

[Nicole1126]

I am so ready for the time he's going to take PCT. I know it'll get easier...

[Bonaparte]

Yes, I myself work out...I know a lot of people that participate in body building and are really into fitness who have taken Tren... I mean I guess I should say gym acquaintances...more or less. Don't really understand the question about my screen name?

He was implying that you're a male member who created a second account to mess with us (a troll, if you will).

[DGK]

Honestly, steroids will only make someone who is already an asshole more of an asshole. I myself have never tweaked out on my gf friends or family. I actually was very worried about roid rage my first cycle so i wa hyper vigillants about it. I have heard about depression from juice which sounds like him distancing u could be. I myself am already on an anti depresent for other reasons so i dont have that side either.. The only time i snapped on someone was when someone came into my business at 2 am drunk as shit on halloween and tried to get behind the counter. I own a late night college type eatery so we get drunks like crazy.. but this one just didnt get it.. I was at the end of a 12 week test 400 cycle and once he put hi hands on me he was done. After i threw him into a few walls i dragged him through the restaurant and threw him outside ...lol he came back swinging, i wrapped my 18 inch bicep around his throat locked my other arm in place and dropped to my back with him he was out within seconds and i didnt even remember doing it. I saw reddd.. next thing i know he is snoring and i have him on his stomach hands behind his back and im telling my employee to call the cops.. Wasnt until i reviewed the footage that i saw what had happend.. Funny thing was the cop goes what was he thinking , i mean ur a ****in brick wall im not sure i would try and get past u..lol
Anyway sounds like aas isnt for ur man.

[ChrisCGT]

I have been taking for awhile And it all really a mental game. Juice just makes your ego bigger and if you are passive then you have nothing to worry about but if you are a dick then you will be a bigger dick. Just don't make it public, you make the rest of us look bad

[ChrisCGT]

Just turn the ego into sex drive and you will be ok. Learn to turn the drive into something else

[lovbyts]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it. Have him join the site so we can get more details and give him a little first hand advice from personal experiences. Coming form you he will probably just consider it more nagging and be irritated but coming from fellow juice heads he man listen.

And as the others have said, Welcome.

[DanB]

Sorry just doesn't sound logical that she would get into indepth conversations with guys about their cycles. Something doesn't fit logically to me. I could always be wrong though.

Some people broadcast what they are running to anybody that will listen ........

[swm1972]

I agree with what others have said. If you are a dick, tren will make you more of a dick. Could be depression related mood swings too. I've had mid cycle depression before for no obvious reason. Just a overwhelming feeling of dread facing the same boring routines every damn day. No clue where it comes from or what triggers it but for me it feels very real at that time. A few hours later I am typically fine. I can be short dealing with those in my life when I am going through these times. If that is the case the best thing you can do is give him his space and let him sort the thoughts out that are ****ing with his head.

You sound like a good person. I'm sure he will recognize that and things will be fine.

[Nicole1126]

MACKATTACK...it's not that I get in depth about them...I guess it's just common in the area I live in...lot of people with money to blow on supplements and stuff...so it's usually just a topic of conversation. Not abnormal...

[Nicole1126]

I agree with what others have said. If you are a dick, tren will make you more of a dick. Could be depression related mood swings too. I've had mid cycle depression before for no obvious reason. Just a overwhelming feeling of dread facing the same boring routines every damn day. No clue where it comes from or what triggers it but for me it feels very real at that time. A few hours later I am typically fine. I can be short dealing with those in my life when I am going through these times. If that is the case the best thing you can do is give him his space and let him sort the thoughts out that are ****ing with his head.

You sound like a good person. I'm sure he will recognize that and things will be fine.

Thanks so much for your response...really really appreciate it and your post really helped me. You sound exactly like him. You are right about just letting him deal with the thoughts that are messing with his head...seems like the only thing I can do! So thanks again!

[Misery13]

MACKATTACK...it's not that I get in depth about them...I guess it's just common in the area I live in...lot of people with money to blow on supplements and stuff...so it's usually just a topic of conversation. Not abnormal...

I agree. Mrs.misery13 talks with our small circle of friends about there cycles all the time. She knows more about AAS than most of them. Mostly because she has read all the same books as me and she posts on here as well.

But I do find it odd that your on here and he is not.

[tall76]

The diet he's on will affect him as well. When I'm real low carb I get real short with the wife. After a few weeks extremely clean I feel like I could snap at any moment.... Add AAS into the mix and things get weird

[Schmidty]

one of the funniest things iv read in a while.

Honestly, steroids will only make someone who is already an asshole more of an asshole. I myself have never tweaked out on my gf friends or family. I actually was very worried about roid rage my first cycle so i wa hyper vigillants about it. I have heard about depression from juice which sounds like him distancing u could be. I myself am already on an anti depresent for other reasons so i dont have that side either.. The only time i snapped on someone was when someone came into my business at 2 am drunk as shit on halloween and tried to get behind the counter. I own a late night college type eatery so we get drunks like crazy.. but this one just didnt get it.. I was at the end of a 12 week test 400 cycle and once he put hi hands on me he was done. After i threw him into a few walls i dragged him through the restaurant and threw him outside ...lol he came back swinging, i wrapped my 18 inch bicep around his throat locked my other arm in place and dropped to my back with him he was out within seconds and i didnt even remember doing it. I saw reddd.. next thing i know he is snoring and i have him on his stomach hands behind his back and im telling my employee to call the cops.. Wasnt until i reviewed the footage that i saw what had happend.. Funny thing was the cop goes what was he thinking , i mean ur a ****in brick wall im not sure i would try and get past u..lol
Anyway sounds like aas isnt for ur man.

[Schmidty]

he will more then likely get much worse durring pct btw. PCT is never a cake walk especially after a nor19cycle because of how suppresive it is. I dont come off anymore, that being one of the reasons. Last pct i was on i cryed on a bench press when my mp3 player died because i felt like it was the end of the world lol. My side effects while on are never really that bad it was more when i would come off, atleast my emotions and my acne.