Anavar Cycle Question

[Addax]

Age: 24
WT:185
HT:5'11
BF: 8%-9%
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I have heard low doses of Anavar can be taken without the need for test and PCT.

So my questions are...

1. Is this true?

2. If it is what dose should I run and for how long?

Thanks!

[xxblazenlowxx]

This is not true

[Razor]

Wait two more years, eat train hard and sleep. you got all you need right now to gain 20 more lbs without gear..
Do yourself the favor

[Addax]

Well this is not so helpful. Which part is not true? I really dont want to shut down my htpa and I would like to avoid test if I could. I have done 3 cycles in my life time and I have anger issues when I take highly anabolic/androgenic steroids. I thought anavar was mild? If its not true then would you have any suggestions on how I could set it up. If i were to do a cycle again I would do a 6-wk burst cycle with low test under 150/mg a week.

[gearbox]

To answer your question: Yes var will shut down your htpa to what degree is unknown. Everyone is different and you have no way of knowing just how much it will affect you, even at a low dose. You were smart to ask, and I like that you are concerned with not shutting down your natty system. So listen to razr and eat train eat...

[Addax]

thanks gearbox. To razr: Im not looking to gain 20 lbs Im perfectly happy with my weight I was looking to shred down a bit more to 6%. Ive been taking clen and it has got me to a decent bf% but the problem is that it really doesnt effect me anymore and I have to take a large amount of it to feel it so I wanted to try something new to push down my bf a bit more. Any suggestions?

[gearbox]

If you are 6% you are definitely on the low end. How do you know you are 6%?
What has your clen cycle been?

[DanB]

thanks gearbox. To razr: Im not looking to gain 20 lbs Im perfectly happy with my weight I was looking to shred down a bit more to 6%. Ive been taking clen and it has got me to a decent bf% but the problem is that it really doesnt effect me anymore and I have to take a large amount of it to feel it so I wanted to try something new to push down my bf a bit more. Any suggestions?

how have you ran clen?

do you understand how it effects your beta 2 receptors? this could be reason why you say it no longer affects you

[Addax]

No I am 8-9% right now. I wanted to get lower to around 6%. I run clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, and yes I know that clen effected my receptors thats why it has less effects as I am using it; the reason I wanted to try anavar.

[Addax]

Next question. Is it ok to run var w/o test and do a mild pct after 4 weeks?

[Razor]

Your not making sense. You don't want to get bigger...yet you want to run test and var which will make you bigger...you should not var at your age..and not run it alone..your going about this the wrong way...if your already 9% keep dieting and do more cardio.

[Razor]

Running a lowdoes of test will still shut you down..just stay away from gear and I would get off the clen as well or not use it anymore..

[Addax]

Let me clarify:

My goal in mind is not to gain mass. To gain some mass and lower bf is what I am looking for, which i assume everyone is going for. What your saying goes against what I have heard about var. I thought it was one of the mildest steroids? I certainly do not know much about it and im not saying your wrong but could you please explain the issues of running var at my age?

[Razor]

Your goal is not to gain mass ....your goal is to gain mass and lower bf..did I read that right?

[Addax]

You are hard headed maybe you should lay off the steroids yourself. I am simply saying my main goal is to lose bf%.

[Razor]

You are hard headed maybe you should lay off the steroids yourself. I am simply saying my main goal is to lose bf%.

Your being hard headed as well..we all told you not to take anavar..test or anything else because it will shut you down and fck your htpa..if you want to go from 9% to 6% eat chicken and vegetables and steak 5 times a day. And increase cardio output.

[D7M]

Var can be midly suppressive, yes.

But I've ran var alone and never had libido problems with it.

You could go with Var 50-60mg/ED for 8-10 weeks.

Run nolva 40/40/20/20 for PCT.

[ghettoboyd]

Var can be midly suppressive, yes.

But I've ran var alone and never had libido problems with it.

You could go with Var 50-60mg/ED for 8-10 weeks.

Run nolva 40/40/20/20 for PCT.

^^^^good advise from an experianced/knowledgable member...theres a lot of parroting of info/ missinformation going around lately...

[Addax]

Thanks for the advice. I wasn't planning on running var for that long. I was looking more at 4 weeks, should i do the same pct?

[D7M]

Four weeks of var is not really worth it. And var is mild enough that you can run it for the length I suggested just fine.

[Razor]

I cat believe people are encouraging this kid to do this, hes 24 and has no idea what hes doing. At a minimum wait 2 more years and run a bese of test. not a low does of 150mg a week..

[gixxerboy1]

I cat believe people are encouraging this kid to do this, hes 24 and has no idea what hes doing. At a minimum wait 2 more years and run a bese of test. not a low does of 150mg a week..

since when is 26 the age to start?

[Razor]

Since when is 24?

[gixxerboy1]

Since when is 24?

there is no rule of the board. Most people opinions is 25 is safe. 24 can be a few months from 25. not going to argue semantics

[Razor]

Normal range of testosterone is reported as 350- 1200ng/d

When I was 23-24 mine was 1226ng/d..I could put on as much size as I wanted to and keep bf% low. I'm sure his is not that far off reading his stats.
I when I was 24 I was not even as big as him.
His stats
Age: 24
WT:185
HT:5'11
BF: 8%-9%
He has good size and low bodyfat, so I would suggest the higher range...Addax have you had your lvls check, minimum you need to do before starting a cycle so you can have some point in return if possible. If your committed to do this at least run test with it at a minimum or primo since you want to get lean a hard.

[BBrian]

Twenty-five is the recommendation. Is 24.5 too soon? Honestly we could never pin point an exact age when someone's HPTA has finished developing. Is 24 close enough an age where we wouldn't have to worry about halting final development? For some yes, and for some no. I did a 10 week cycle of Sustanon, 250mg ew when I was 23, and recovered completely and have had a higher than average libido throughout my life, and I'm now 35. It's a grey area but I just wouldn't beat the dead horse when it's a 24 year old horse. Besdies, if there was one compound that I'd feel comfortable recommending to someone just under the age of 25, it'd be Anavar.

I've read very mixed reports of gonad suppression from Anavar-only cycles. Some have suffered slightly and some have not suffered at all. There are a couple people running an Anavar cycle with HCG to prevent suppression right now, and I'll be very excited to see how their bodies respond.

[Razor]

Twenty-five is the recommendation. Is 24.5 too soon? Honestly we could never pin point an exact age when someone's HPTA has finished developing. Is 24 close enough an age where we wouldn't have to worry about halting final development? For some yes, and for some no. I did a 10 week cycle of Sustanon, 250mg ew when I was 23, and recovered completely and have had a higher than average libido throughout my life, and I'm now 35. It's a grey area but I just wouldn't beat the dead horse when it's a 24 year old horse. Besdies, if there was one compound that I'd feel comfortable recommending to someone just under the age of 25, it'd be Anavar.

I've read very mixed reports of gonad suppression from Anavar-only cycles. Some have suffered slightly and some have not suffered at all. There are a couple people running an Anavar cycle with HCG to prevent suppression right now, and I'll be very excited to see how their bodies respond.

True in some cases..many other factors to consider...how long has he been really training, does he have a solid base of matured muscle to build on. Does he have a diet in place..does he know about cycling carbs and priming for a cycle.. is he lifting correctly..if he just wants to run var to go from 9% too 6% then there are many other drug free options that can be laid out. Just taking anavar to do that is the wrong answer.

[Razor]

If he is already using clen he can cycle that and easily go from 9 to 6% and maintain muscle mass since clen is anti-catabolic if he is going on calorie reduced diet.

[BBrian]

True in some cases..many other factors to consider...how long has he been really training, does he have a solid base of matured muscle to build on. Does he have a diet in place..if he just wants to run var to go from 9% too 6% then there are many other drug free options that can be laid out. Just taking anavar to do that is the wrong answer.

Well, I don't disagree with any of that, but that's off-topic for what I was addressing. I was more concerned with age and overall HPTA functionality. But Anavar yields very specific results and comes with many benefits in terms of a lack of hepatoxicity, does not convert to estrogen, etc., and it is up to the user to decide which compounds they want to use to achieve their personal goals. The only real draw-back to Anavar is its price, but even that can be avoided when you have great connections.

[BBrian]

If he is already using clen he can cycle that and easily go from 9 to 6% and maintain muscle mass since clen is anti-catabolic if he is going on calorie reduced diet.

Anavar is so much better for the body compared to the compounds you've listed so far. I'm not quite sure why you're campaigning a battle against Anavar

[Razor]

Well, I don't disagree with any of that, but that's off-topic for what I was addressing. I was more concerned with age and overall HPTA functionality. But Anavar yields very specific results and comes with many benefits in terms of a lack of hepatoxicity, does not convert to estrogen, etc., and it is up to the user to decide which compounds they want to use to achieve their personal goals. The only real draw-back to Anavar is its price, but even that can be avoided when you have great connections.

Primo and Prov dont convert either, put I dont recommend he take those..all he wants to do is drop3%, there is no reason he needs to take anything..but clen if he must. If its working for him he can keep cycling and taking it longer periods at high dosages with Keto..that would give him what he wants without messing with HTPA at all. Clen works great sub 10%

[gixxerboy1]

and clen can have worse sides the anavar.
I dont see the issue either

[BBrian]

Primo and Prov dont convert either, put I dont recommend he take those..all he wants to do is drop3%, there is no reason he needs to take anything..but clen if he must. If its working for him he can keep cycling and taking it longer periods at high dosages with Keto..that would give him what he wants without messing with HTPA at all. Clen works great sub 10%

I just don't care for clen due to the way it affects the heart, gives you shakes, night sweats, discomfort, etc. It's a very strong compound and taxes the body. You should try a strong Anavar cycle sometime in your near future, I bet you'll fall in love with what it does for your muscles and the way it trims fat from the trunk

[Razor]

Anavar is so much better for the body compared to the compounds you've listed so far. I'm not quite sure why you're campaigning a battle against Anavar

I dont have a problem with Avanvar. Although oxandrolone is a 17-alpha alkylated steroid, its liver toxicity is very small. It messes with the liver and HTPA. If he is running clen, he can drop 2-3% on clen without a problem. Why mess with var if not necessary. With clen you dont have HTPA issues, not PCT necessary and you can run it 2 on 2 off or 4 on 2 off with Keto..All im saying is go with the less invasive way...no pct... and no htpa shutdown at 24.

[Razor]

and clen can have worse sides the anavar.
I dont see the issue either

I have never had problems with clen, you say you have...but seems to be working for him..he didnt come on here saying "help clen has ruined my life"
He said it was not working for him as much..Which is an easy fix with Keto.
I have always going with the principle less is more. if you can get your goals done with one, why switch to 3-4 more drugs..avanar, nova, clomid, hcg.
Just does not make sense.
But Im out of thread, I have said my peace..best of luck to you bro. I just dont want to see you get hurt. Have a good one.

[BBrian]

Now that Razr's gone, let's talk about him behind his back. I heard that he drives a purple 1884 Ford Escort.

[gixxerboy1]

i heard it was a ford fiesta with polka dots

[Razor]

Now that Razr's gone, let's talk about him behind his back. I heard that he drives a purple 1884 Ford Escort.

i heard it was a ford fiesta with polka dots

whats wrong with ford? Its made in america you communist bastards!!

[gixxerboy1]

i only ride european, like my women

[Razor]

i only ride european, like my women

bmw?