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  1. 03-04-2012, 08:22 PM #1
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    Need Help Quick!

    Hello there, I'm looking to start my first cycle/dosage. I throw shot put and discus.

    My Stats:
    Height: 5'11
    Weight: 245 lbs
    Bench: 255 lbs
    Squat: 350 lbs
    Vertical: 28 inches

    I'm looking to do a 4 week cycle and finish the cycle on my biggest meet.
    Should I finish my cycle before my meet or should I finish after.

    My Cycle:
    D-Bol: 30 mgs/a day
    EPISTANE: 40mgs/ a day

    PCT:
    Nolvadex ??mgs/ a day
    Clomid ??mgs/ a day

    Please help me on finding out what a good PCT for me would be and how I would dose it.
    All suggestions are appreciated. With my sport I need alot of strength, so I am trying to put on as much muscle as fast as possible.
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  2. 03-04-2012, 08:24 PM #2
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    Age and bf?
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  3. 03-04-2012, 08:26 PM #3
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    Age: 18
    BF: 18-20%

    (I already have my mind set on doing them. Sorry for being ignorant lol)
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  4. 03-04-2012, 08:29 PM #4
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    terrible, terrible terrible idea,, dbol with 20 percent bf at 18 not the smatest idea
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  5. 03-04-2012, 08:30 PM #5
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    Typically when guys say their bf is 20% its much higher.
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  6. 03-04-2012, 08:30 PM #6
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    what would you recommend then?
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  7. 03-04-2012, 08:32 PM #7
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    It used to be way higher. It was like 26% now it has gone down to like 19% though.
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  8. 03-04-2012, 08:33 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    what would you recommend then?
    No steroids until your 25 and have a handle of diet and training. At 5'11 245 and 20++ %bf you have a lot of homework to do. The good news is you have a few years to do this homework before cycling. Otherwise you can add permanent endocrine damage to your list of fitness problems.
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  9. 03-04-2012, 08:35 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    It used to be way higher. It was like 26% now it has gone down to like 19% though.
    If youre 5'11 245 at 19% post a pic.
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  10. 03-04-2012, 08:38 PM #10
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    sorry dude im not kind of into that stuff. I just came here for advice. You wouldn't even recommend like Var or anything else?
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  11. 03-04-2012, 08:41 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    sorry dude im not kind of into that stuff. I just came here for advice. You wouldn't even recommend like Var or anything else?
    Bro - youre 5'11 245 19% at age 18 you dont need steroids your a genetic freak!
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  12. 03-04-2012, 08:44 PM #12
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    so is that a good thing or bad thing? lol what should I do?
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  13. 03-04-2012, 08:54 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by xelnaga

    Bro - youre 5'11 245 19% at age 18 you dont need steroids your a genetic freak!
    This would be a good thing ....if its true! If you don't know your BF% you should post a pic so we can help you better, but most important, your WAY to young, and without a proper diet the dbol won't help the high BF !!!
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  14. 03-04-2012, 08:56 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyD View Post
    This would be a good thing ....if its true! If you don't know your BF% you should post a pic so we can help you better, but most important, your WAY to young, and without a proper diet the dbol won't help the high BF !!!
    I just calculated it and it was 20% so there! lol
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  15. 03-04-2012, 08:56 PM #15
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    You also have a lot of work to do in the gym. At 245 you should be benching much more than 255.
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  16. 03-04-2012, 08:59 PM #16
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    thats why I'm looking to take something, and asking for advice...
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  17. 03-04-2012, 09:31 PM #17
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    Everyone is trying to be nice and tell you that you are too young. However you keep looking for an answer which no respectable member is going to give you. My suggestion would be to take the advice you are too young at this point and go to the diet and workout sections. You can accomplish a lot on your own.
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  18. 03-04-2012, 09:33 PM #18
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    yeah I'm sorry for being a hagler. But I need to find a way to put on muscle gains fast
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  19. 03-04-2012, 09:43 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    yeah I'm sorry for being a hagler. But I need to find a way to put on muscle gains fast
    Grrr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    yeah I'm sorry for being a hagler. But I need to find a way to put on muscle gains fast
    there is no fast way, dbol will bloat you and water will drop off after the cycle, im not even going into why you shouldnt cycle at 18

    you need sort your diet mate plain and simple, i know it isnt what you want to hear but there is no alternative, if you want to step up then in turn you need to be focused and dedicated
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  21. 03-04-2012, 09:50 PM #21
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    thanks for all the advice people! much appreciated!
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  22. 03-04-2012, 09:50 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrow
    yeah I'm sorry for being a hagler. But I need to find a way to put on muscle gains fast
    Why don't you worry about dropping body fat that would improve your health first
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  23. 03-04-2012, 09:55 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    Why don't you worry about dropping body fat that would improve your health first
    I guess I should. But strength is needed alot in throw shot/discus so I always think that if I lose weight I will lose muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrow
    I guess I should. But strength is needed alot in throw shot/discus so I always think that if I lose weight I will lose muscle.
    Are you an Olympic athlete?
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  25. 03-05-2012, 05:36 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    Are you an Olympic athlete?
    No, im not?
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  26. 03-05-2012, 05:39 PM #26
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    learn how to diet and train properly. Something is very of if your 20% bf and your benching your body weight
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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