winnie without test?????

[freak1]

so i have a freind who wants to do a cycle of just injectabal winnie and im advising him that i think he should run some test along side of it.at least even a low dose since he doesnt really wanna gain alot of size but more just harden up .he wants to run 50mg winnie ed for 8wks .any suggestions of what kind test would run nicely along side of the winnie and how much mininum he should run?? i was thinking maybe test prop and maybe just run both eod at 100 mg??any advice is appreicatexd ty

[EASTCOASTKID]

I would have your friend ask the questions cause we need his stats.

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[lifeiswheyeasy]

bad idea, or at least a wast of money from what i've reaserched. I think your right on the test p eod at 100 or e3d if he wants to really stretch it.

[maxmuscle1090]

he has to run winnie with test..prop 100mg EOD sounds good should be a nice cut cycle if diet and cardio is right

[boxin23]

Bad Idea to try and lay a cycle of any kind out for someone on this board whom you have no stats on guys. Your post is really not good at all to suggest what you have.

[ScotchGuard02]

Sounds like your buddy needs to find out more about AAS before he starts a cycle. If this is his first cycle just bag the winnie and stick with the prop for 8 weeks.

[alexISthrowed]

For my first show I ran winny at 50mg ed for 5 weeks before the show. I didn't get a boner for 5 weeks before the show. I wouldn't ever run an oral without test again.

[ScotchGuard02]

LOL, alex that's awesome. I had the same thing. I always run Test with all orals including Anavar.

[Blergs]

atleast an HRT amount 100-250mg ew (i rec 250mg ew with a mild AI)

[cyounger100]

LOL, alex that's awesome. I had the same thing. I always run Test with all orals including Anavar.

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[1bigfjet]

I just made this mistake!!! I listened to people that I should not have... I wil come here next time...
I have been doing the "Insanity" program and wanted to run a Winnie cycle to cut up!!! 4weeks in and I feel like shit! And no real benifit Winnie, ( I am still getting boners though) this is a good thing... I stopin and will start a nice super test 450 cycle and get back to normal!!!

[manonfire]

Sounds like the reasonable thing to do here 1big