Will this guys cycle kill me?

**wtown617** · 03-05-2012, 09:48 PM

Hi Guys,

I have been lifting for 8 years now,
6' 175 lbs.
Very healthy.

I wanted to try out a cycle, This would be my first, had a buddy of mine draft one up. I have been reading a lot and feel like he may be trying to kill me with such high doses. Please let me know what you think? I appreciate it guys.

Anavar tabs, Tren , Test cycle.

Week 1: 2x0.5CC of Tren/Test
Week 2: 5x6 tabs var, 2x1CC of Tren/Test
Week 3: 5x6 tabs var, 1x1CC of Tren/Test, 1x1.5CC Tren/Test
Week 4: 5x6 tabs var, 2x1.5CC of Tren/Test
Week 5: 2x5 tabs var, 1x1.5CC of Tren/Test

This kid has done many cycles and looks great, but not sure if this is one that would be beneficial for someone of my size/inexperience.

Any help is appreciated.

**gixxerboy1** · 03-05-2012, 09:51 PM

well with out mg's you cant tell anything. 1cc means nothing. Things come different strengths per cc. Same thing with anavar pills there are different strenght pills.

also that cycle is horrible for so many reasons i dont know where to even start

punching your buddy in the throat for recommending that would be your best bet

**wtown617** · 03-05-2012, 09:54 PM

Lmao, its always great to get a second opinion...I believe the anavar was 10mg/tab. The tren was Trenos-E200, and the test was Test E-250. I could punch him in the throat...but where should I go for better advice? haha

**xelnaga** · 03-05-2012, 09:58 PM

8 years of lifting and your 6' 175? I highly recommend hitting the nutrition section.

**slfmade** · 03-05-2012, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

8 years of lifting and your 6' 175? I highly recommend hitting the nutrition section.

Agreed!

**wtown617** · 03-05-2012, 10:03 PM

Ive put on 30 lbs since i started eating right...but have plateau'd over the past year...while on a 40/40/20 5000cal diet/day. I don't know what else to do...

**gixxerboy1** · 03-05-2012, 10:05 PM

because as you keep gaining you have to keep adjusting your diet. The diet that made you gain last year will not this year

**Kansas City Boy** · 03-05-2012, 10:06 PM

The 6' 175lb aside..... Tren should not even be in a beginners vocabulary.... Tren is nothing to play around with unless you're training for a serious bodybuilding competition or play sports professionally... No first cycle (Or second third fourth and fifth cycle) should consist of tren. Your first cycle should consist of Test only... However, if you're set on using that anavar .... I'm okay with it; however, you're really light my man. I would try looking in the diet section... I was 5'8 190lb naturally... I know everyone is different; but, 6' 175 is too low for any body type... Look at putting on 10-15 lb naturally before cycling.

**wtown617** · 03-05-2012, 10:10 PM

great advice my man, ill eat until i can't eat anymore...but damn, my metabolism works OT all day...it will catch up with me one way.

**warren916** · 03-05-2012, 10:23 PM

Tren is ALL BAD first go ...stick to test and anavar .

Pyramiding your doses will cause more side effects.

Run this ...its the "beginners" cycle for pretty much everyone, and everyone here will req it..

Test E 500-600mg/per for 12 weeks. 4cc/week total throughout 12 weeks. You can also use the anavar if you can afford it..

You gotta run at least 10 weeks, the E stands for Enanthate , it wont fully saturate your blood stream for 4-5 weeks and you wont feel anything til then. So its wise to run 12.

**wtown617** · 03-05-2012, 10:24 PM

I hate to be a painful newb: but could you guys recommend any threads or cycles I could research? I'm trying to gain, perhaps 20lbs but trying to keep my bf low (it's at 8%).

I researched anavar , but I am a lil afraid to shut down my system you know? Didn't know if there was a stack to prevent that.

Sorry for the newb status,

Just looking for something new to try...

Thanks for any advice

**wtown617** · 03-05-2012, 10:26 PM

Thank you bud...so I would use anavar in conjunction with test E? Or one or the other? 4cc a week, like 4x1CC doses?

**wtown617** · 03-05-2012, 10:29 PM

Btw I probs could only find test E 250...does this change your CC's?

**lovbyts** · 03-05-2012, 11:23 PM

Yes the number typically means MG/strength of the test so if you had planned on using Test 200 and wanted to do 400mg a week you would just pin 2x a week, 1cc= 200mg test. If you still wanted to do 400mg a week and had test 250 you would only use .8cc 2x a week = 400mg.

I also agree with everyone else. You need to work on the diet before considering doing a cycle. You can gain a lot of weight naturally first and if you dont you will just loose anything you gain from the diet being off.

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-06-2012, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by wtown617

great advice my man, ill eat until i can't eat anymore...but damn, my metabolism works OT all day...it will catch up with me one way.

You're not getting it. You know how most of these guys with massive physiques get that big? They plan out each meal they eat down the all the macros. What you should do right now is for tomorrow and the next couple days log everything you eat when you eat it. Keep track of the portions and what not. Don't do anything out of the ordinary and then go online and figure out the calories, grams of protein, carbs and fats from it all. Then post it in the diet section. People can start giving you suggestions to modify what you're currently eating in to a better diet that will support your gains.

**cro** · 03-06-2012, 04:56 AM

just run the test alone.....

**gixxerboy1** · 03-06-2012, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by warren916

Tren is ALL BAD first go ...stick to test and anavar .

Pyramiding your doses will cause more side effects.

Run this ...its the "beginners" cycle for pretty much everyone, and everyone here will req it..

Test E 500-600mg/per for 12 weeks. 4cc/week total throughout 12 weeks. You can also use the anavar if you can afford it..

You gotta run at least 10 weeks, the E stands for Enanthate, it wont fully saturate your blood stream for 4-5 weeks and you wont feel anything til then. So its wise to run 12.

you realize the the average dose of test e & 250mg per ml you just told him to do 1000mg a week?

OP do not listen to this guy

**OnTheSauce** · 03-06-2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by wtown617

I hate to be a painful newb: but could you guys recommend any threads or cycles I could research? I'm trying to gain, perhaps 20lbs but trying to keep my bf low (it's at 8%).

I researched anavar , but I am a lil afraid to shut down my system you know? Didn't know if there was a stack to prevent that.

Sorry for the newb status,

Just looking for something new to try...

Thanks for any advice

you're going to get shutdown. Thats what happens when you use testosterone .

**Razor** · 03-06-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

you realize the the average dose of test e & 250mg per ml you just told him to do 1000mg a week?

OP do not listen to this guy

Thank god you caught that

**MickeyKnox** · 03-06-2012, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

well with out mg's you cant tell anything. 1cc means nothing. Things come different strengths per cc. Same thing with anavar pills there are different strenght pills.

also that cycle is horrible for so many reasons i dont know where to even start

punching your buddy in the throat for recommending that would be your best bet

hahahaha

Originally Posted by wtown617

Ive put on 30 lbs since i started eating right...but have plateau'd over the past year...while on a 40/40/20 5000cal diet/day. I don't know what else to do...

5000 cals/day and you don't gain weight? post your diet. not to be rude, but i flat out don't believe this for a second.

Originally Posted by wtown617

I hate to be a painful newb: but could you guys recommend any threads or cycles I could research? I'm trying to gain, perhaps 20lbs but trying to keep my bf low (it's at 8%).

I researched anavar, but I am a lil afraid to shut down my system you know? Didn't know if there was a stack to prevent that.

Sorry for the newb status,

Just looking for something new to try...

Thanks for any advice

your system shuts down on just about any aas test cycle.

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

You're not getting it. You know how most of these guys with massive physiques get that big? They plan out each meal they eat down the all the macros. What you should do right now is for tomorrow and the next couple days log everything you eat when you eat it. Keep track of the portions and what not. Don't do anything out of the ordinary and then go online and figure out the calories, grams of protein, carbs and fats from it all. Then post it in the diet section. People can start giving you suggestions to modify what you're currently eating in to a better diet that will support your gains.

this ^^.

**JuicyJ** · 03-06-2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

You're not getting it. You know how most of these guys with massive physiques get that big? They plan out each meal they eat down the all the macros. What you should do right now is for tomorrow and the next couple days log everything you eat when you eat it. Keep track of the portions and what not. Don't do anything out of the ordinary and then go online and figure out the calories, grams of protein, carbs and fats from it all. Then post it in the diet section. People can start giving you suggestions to modify what you're currently eating in to a better diet that will support your gains.

I use an app on my iPhone called "my fitness pal". It allows you to log all the food that you eat extremely easy. It even breaks down all your macros. I can't stress how you have to be honest with yourself and find out where you are at with your intake and then work towards where you need to be. Ignorance is NOT bliss when it comes to diet.

**calstate23** · 03-06-2012, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by wtown617

Hi Guys,

I have been lifting for 8 years now,
6' 175 lbs.
Very healthy.

I wanted to try out a cycle, This would be my first, had a buddy of mine draft one up. I have been reading a lot and feel like he may be trying to kill me with such high doses. Please let me know what you think? I appreciate it guys.

Anavar tabs, Tren , Test cycle.

Week 1: 2x0.5CC of Tren/Test
Week 2: 5x6 tabs var, 2x1CC of Tren/Test
Week 3: 5x6 tabs var, 1x1CC of Tren/Test, 1x1.5CC Tren/Test
Week 4: 5x6 tabs var, 2x1.5CC of Tren/Test
Week 5: 2x5 tabs var, 1x1.5CC of Tren/Test

This kid has done many cycles and looks great, but not sure if this is one that would be beneficial for someone of my size/inexperience.

Any help is appreciated.

How can we tell you anything?? You did not post mg dosages..........Example, 1 ml/cc could be a 100 mg dose, 250 mg dose etc etc....So telling us 1 cc doesn't really tell us anything....

Same thing with your tabs......I'm thinking since you don't know that you probably shouldn't even use steroids anyways.....

I would just use test for you

**BBrian** · 03-06-2012, 03:40 PM

By the way, if you're worried about shutting down your HPTA, the testosterone will be far more effective in doing this than the Anavar will.

**sgt2jay** · 03-06-2012, 04:00 PM

a vet here gave me a great easy to follow beginner protocal

200mg Test E mon and thurs
250 iu hcg mon and thur statring week 3
10 armoasin every day

pct 2 weeks after last pin test e
nolva 40/20/20/20...clomid 100/50/50/50