Do you use insulin on YOUR cycle?

[bradhore]

How many of you use insulin on your cycle? Are the gains MUCH greater if you use it than if you dont use it??

[alexISthrowed]

I would only recommend insulin after doing hours and hours of research. There are some good threads in the peptides section.

[loki_is_a_god]

I tried it once on a dbol, deca and sustanon cycle.....4 to 8 ius after workouts.....I did a year of research before trying this....

[BBrian]

Personally, it scares the hell out of me. I'd always be scared of screwing with my insulin sensitivity, which is dangerous stuff. I've never heard of Pro BB's developing diabetes, but it seems like the threat is very present.

[gearbox]

Swifto is the man to talk to, and has a current thread going on his cycle and results. i agree with bbrain on the scary part

[markdbg]

its a great compound, ull add alot of weight and alot of fat if ur diet isnt 100%, i ate 0 fats while on the cycle and i still gained a couple bf% in 4 weeks and i ate very clean. u gotta no how much to eat.

[bradhore]

How can you become diabetic? From taking too high dosages? Ive done quite a bit of research on it so i should be ok.. Anythin you think i should be aware of?

[Razor]

If anyone knows how to run slin...Alex does. When i start ill use his protocols

[The Titan99]

AAS + HGH + Insulin is supposed to make you grow like a weed. That said diabetes runs in my family so I'll never mess with it.

[Schmidty]

iv used it and it wasnt anything to special. I may use it again one day but i wont go to far out of my way to get it. Iv used it PWO, with every meal, and quite a few different doses...

[bradhore]

Maybe its got greater effects on different people. Im going to do a 6 week course of test prop (85mg a day) and 8iu a day of novolog fast acting. For pct just a stand 40mcg nolvaday everyday for first 2 weeks then 20mcg for the last 2 weeks. Does insulin have a bad effect on acne if your prone to it?

[Schmidty]

no not at all

[vikingvip]

Personally I have never taken insulin before. I heard that overdose has we can die. Is it true? thanks guy for your answer

[Schmidty]

yeah it can killyouor put you in a coma pretty quick if your not carefull. for a lot of people it works really well but i wasnt impressed.

[alexISthrowed]

When I ran slin I never went hypo once. I did my research and did everything by the book and I was fine. You need to be a little ocd with the stuff and never lose your respect for it.

[bradhore]

Maybe its got greater effects on different people. Im going to do a 6 week course of test prop (85mg a day) and 8iu a day of novolog fast acting. For pct just a stand 40mcg nolvaday everyday for first 2 weeks then 20mcg for the last 2 weeks. Does insulin have a bad effect on acne if your prone to it?

no input for my short cycle?

[alexISthrowed]

no input for my short cycle?

This is the wrong section, go to the peptide section there are a lot of insulin threads.

[Honkey_Kong]

Alex, is there a chance at shutting down your body's insulin production by introducing an external source?

[xelnaga]

I ran insulin years ago. The dextrose and maltodextrin shakes killed me. Train, eat , inject, shakes- then spend the next 2 hours hoping you dont throw up. When I did throw up I had to redo all the shakes... or risk coma.

[Razor]

Sounds like running slin sucks ass

[alexISthrowed]

I ran insulin years ago. The dextrose and maltodextrin shakes killed me. Train, eat , inject, shakes- then spend the next 2 hours hoping you dont throw up. When I did throw up I had to redo all the shakes... or risk coma.

Karbolyn is nice, I couldn't take in 225g of dextrose in an hour and a half. I would have 75g karbolyn pre, intra, and post workout running 10iu's pre workout.

[bradhore]

During the 4 or 5 hours that the slin is active after injection, should i be avoiding too many FATS and carbs to minimise fat gain??? is just avoid too many carbs? which one?

[Hazard]

Karbolyn is nice, I couldn't take in 225g of dextrose in an hour and a half. I would have 75g karbolyn pre, intra, and post workout running 10iu's pre workout.

^^^^ This right here..... Karbolyn was great. I used my slin pre-workout and liked it but it's really not worth it IMO. Overall I feel it gives you a "full" look.... but without HGH it's not worth it for size gains.

My friend was givin a protocol from a trainer for a couple pro's..... he ran the slin protocol which was no less than scientific witht he diet and insulin timing. He put on an absurd amount of weight really fast. When he was done with the protocol he eventually lost that weight..... even while cycling.

~Haz~

[bradhore]

is it even worth doing then??? mixed reviews....

[Times Roman]

mate,

it's risky as shiit. I'm not willing to risk my life for a little more pop in the gym

my .02

[bradhore]

Karbolyn is nice, I couldn't take in 225g of dextrose in an hour and a half. I would have 75g karbolyn pre, intra, and post workout running 10iu's pre workout.

thats wayyy too many carbs isnt it? it'll make ya fat having that amount. should i be avoiding fats then?? or too many carbs? confused. just dont wanna GAIN FAT on slin

[bradhore]

^^^^ This right here..... Karbolyn was great. I used my slin pre-workout and liked it but it's really not worth it IMO. Overall I feel it gives you a "full" look.... but without HGH it's not worth it for size gains.

My friend was givin a protocol from a trainer for a couple pro's..... he ran the slin protocol which was no less than scientific witht he diet and insulin timing. He put on an absurd amount of weight really fast. When he was done with the protocol he eventually lost that weight..... even while cycling.

~Haz~

how are you so trim mate do you do lots of cardio? or use fatburners eg clen?

[Hazard]

how are you so trim mate do you do lots of cardio? or use fatburners eg clen?

No cardio..... no fatburners..... haha - i'm probably 13% or so which isn't lean by any means IMO.

You when using slin you need to keep the carbs as low as you possibly can while still making sure you don't go hypo. The rule of thumb to start is 10g of carbs per 1iu of slin. Most guys can go lower than that but that comes with time and trying out different ammounts of carbs and having back ups on hand incase you go hypo. Fat consumption should be kept to 0.....

Honestly..... it's not worth it IMO unless you are going to run HGH and compete.

~Haz~

[bradhore]

are you natural??? says in your signature.. you dont look it!! :-s why else wud you be on here lol

[Honkey_Kong]

No cardio..... no fatburners..... haha - i'm probably 13% or so which isn't lean by any means IMO.

You when using slin you need to keep the carbs as low as you possibly can while still making sure you don't go hypo. The rule of thumb to start is 10g of carbs per 1iu of slin. Most guys can go lower than that but that comes with time and trying out different ammounts of carbs and having back ups on hand incase you go hypo. Fat consumption should be kept to 0.....

Honestly..... it's not worth it IMO unless you are going to run HGH and compete.

~Haz~

Is injecting sulin suppressive at all?

[The Titan99]

are you natural??? says in your signature.. you dont look it!! :-s why else wud you be on here lol

His wife thinks he is...lol. I still have a hard time with that one. I used to be a used car salesman and I'll tell you this, if your not, you missed your calling!!!!

[Hazard]

His wife thinks he is...lol. I still have a hard time with that one. I used to be a used car salesman and I'll tell you this, if your not, you missed your calling!!!!

I'm a medical sales rep and ortho/sports med specialist...... ie: professional bullshitter hahaha

~Haz~

[Hazard]

Is injecting sulin suppressive at all?

To what? Your HPTA?

~Haz~

[The Titan99]

I'm a medical sales rep and ortho/sports med specialist...... ie: professional bullshitter hahaha

~Haz~

I thought it would be something along those lines....

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Is injecting sulin suppressive at all?

your body's insulin production is mostly related to blood sugar level. injecting insulin does not directly suppress natural production. but when the injected insulin decreases your blood sugar, your natural insulin will decrease. but it is not suppressed like HPTA during a AAS cycle. the next meal you eat, when blood sugar goes up again, natural insulin kicks in again.

[pregan]

I haven't and don't plan on it. Just don't see the need to risk it for what I want to accomplish.

[Honkey_Kong]

To what? Your HPTA?

~Haz~

No, I mean to your body's natural ability to make insulin.

[Honkey_Kong]

your body's insulin production is mostly related to blood sugar level. injecting insulin does not directly suppress natural production. but when the injected insulin decreases your blood sugar, your natural insulin will decrease. but it is not suppressed like HPTA during a AAS cycle. the next meal you eat, when blood sugar goes up again, natural insulin kicks in again.

Alright that answered my question. Thanks.

[0tolerance]

Ive used insulin a couple of times.

I used it for 1 month solid before working out and alternating my IU dosage, but for me once i went over more than 10 or so IU the dextrose intake would make me physically sick so i just stuck around 10.

I did have a change in diet, but i gained roughly 8kg in that month that i used it for and im still going up from there, i went from 92kg up to 103kg naturally in the space of about 2 months.

Rules of thumb:
If you plan to start using it, as everyone said lots of research.
Start on a low dose and increase it daily, ive spoken to alot of people and most of them dont go over 10-15IU ive heard of some doing more.
7-10 grams of dextrose for every IU taken, use 10 grams in the start so you know your on the safe side, you can reduce the dextrose down once your used to it and not panicking about going into a coma, i personally stick around the 7gram per IU range give or take a small amount lost of gain from measuring.

Make sure you know your peak times so you can have your meal ready for when the second spike in insulin activity, if you dont and you do take it pre work out or even post work out, you could drive some where, go hypo and crash your car(happened to a friend of mine).
I find the best way is to set little timers on your phone and activate them when youve injected.

Always have red frogs or dextrose tablets on you and if you start to feel a little funny, just have a couple at a time until it subsides.

And probably the best thing to do, is tell some one that your using it at your gym whos there when you're there, that way if something goes down, they will know whats wrong.

Oh and take your BCAA with it.

And two important things, if you have diabetes in your family from what ive read its probably not the best idea for you to be using insulin
Use it for 1 month intervals, one month on one month off. personally i took the approach of one on two off to be safe.

[bradhore]

Ive used insulin a couple of times.

I used it for 1 month solid before working out and alternating my IU dosage, but for me once i went over more than 10 or so IU the dextrose intake would make me physically sick so i just stuck around 10.

I did have a change in diet, but i gained roughly 8kg in that month that i used it for and im still going up from there, i went from 92kg up to 103kg naturally in the space of about 2 months.

Rules of thumb:
If you plan to start using it, as everyone said lots of research.
Start on a low dose and increase it daily, ive spoken to alot of people and most of them dont go over 10-15IU ive heard of some doing more.
7-10 grams of dextrose for every IU taken, use 10 grams in the start so you know your on the safe side, you can reduce the dextrose down once your used to it and not panicking about going into a coma, i personally stick around the 7gram per IU range give or take a small amount lost of gain from measuring.

Make sure you know your peak times so you can have your meal ready for when the second spike in insulin activity, if you dont and you do take it pre work out or even post work out, you could drive some where, go hypo and crash your car(happened to a friend of mine).
I find the best way is to set little timers on your phone and activate them when youve injected.

Always have red frogs or dextrose tablets on you and if you start to feel a little funny, just have a couple at a time until it subsides.

And probably the best thing to do, is tell some one that your using it at your gym whos there when you're there, that way if something goes down, they will know whats wrong.

Oh and take your BCAA with it.

And two important things, if you have diabetes in your family from what ive read its probably not the best idea for you to be using insulin
Use it for 1 month intervals, one month on one month off. personally i took the approach of one on two off to be safe.

nice info there thanks. What exactly needs to be timed? Im only injecting post workout, then immediately i will have 50g waxy maize starch with protein shake, and half an hour after i will have lean chicken breast with veg. Then after that i will have another protein shake. Can you list your specific diet from after your post workout injection..