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03-08-2012, 11:21 AM #1
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Heard Pro Hormones can be as effective as Testosterone Enanthate?
Here is an article i happened to read today, is this actually possible it is true and has anyone heard of anything like this before?
3Beta-Hydroxyandrost-5-Ene-17-One is the last legal prohormone on the market that can convert into testosterone . Many people like synthetic androgens like MDrol, Superdrol and HDrol, but these items don’t put on quality muscle. Ask anyone who’s run a cycle of these synthetic androgens and you will see there is nothing like Test to build muscle. Testosterone is the body’s natural androgen and is in our opinion the only steroid you really want to take if you don’t want nasty side effects. Sure, there are lots of designer anabolic steroids that will put 20 pounds on you in 3 weeks, but you lose that “water weight” right after you stop using them. Plus, the side effects are just plain nasty.
One insider who doesn’t want to give his name had this to say “I am never doing these synthetic steroids again. It’s not even worth it when you consider on a cycle of P Plex I gained 15lbs and retained only 5lbs in 3 weeks. On Test, I gained 35lbs in 12 weeks and retained 20lbs of it after the cycle. This to me means TEST IS BEST!”
So, you probably are convinced that testosterone is best. but in the US, testosterone is illegal. You can however use 3Beta-Hydroxyandrost-5-Ene-17-One, the last legal androgen that converts to testosterone. You can’t just take this supplement however to get great results, you need it mixed with the right anti-estrogens and activators to make it active.
One user of 3Beta-Hydroxyandrost-5-Ene-17-One got his test levels up to the equivalent to 500mg of testosterone enthanate per week, using 3Beta-Hydroxyandrost-5-Ene-17-One as a supplement with the right cofactors. Imagine equal to 500mg of testosterone injections per week with a legal supplement!
First, you need to include an aromatase inhibitor. This combination has shown in the literature to boost 3Beta-Hydroxyandrost-5-Ene-17-One conversion to testosterone exponentially.
Second, you need factors that stop the excretion of testosterone and 3Beta-Hydroxyandrost-5-Ene-17-One from the body. These factors keep the hormone active for much longer than standard oral preperations.
If you use these co-factors, you can actually get the benefits of a sane cycle of testosterone without painful injections or breaking the law.
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03-08-2012, 11:40 AM #2
how can something that supposedly converts to test be better then test?
It would still be test.
And its a sales pitch for the ph. I wouldnt believe any of itIf people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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03-08-2012, 11:42 AM #3
This is just supplement industry BS. The compound is found in a product called Methy 1 D and it's been around for a while. I haven't heard of anyone giving up their test to switch to this instead. Don't believe the hype.
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03-08-2012, 11:44 AM #4
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Exactely what I was thinking
OP if you dig a little and you will see that some company with an interest in the PH will either directly (they worte the article) or indirectly (they funded the ''research'') have had something to do with this article
Come on, if it was that good then why is anybody using test?
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03-08-2012, 11:44 AM #5
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thats very true, i doubted itd be true but just thought id ask lol
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03-08-2012, 03:39 PM #6
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Reminds me of years ago (97 or 98) i stopped in my supp store to buy some protein powder and he had androdiol or androstein, or one of those andro's on his counter next to the register under lock and key. So i asked him what it was and he said it was only one molecule away from the real deal and just as potent. AND, he could have his shop shut down if they found out he was selling it. Well, i was on about 600mgs of test at the time and had no interest in the shit, but i just stood there and looked at him like i wanted to knock his teeth down his throat. But i started laughing instead and asked him if he told all his customers that? He didn't say anything except that that is what he has heard. Never went back there.
They will tell people ANYTHING to make a buck is what i'm getting at. Creatine and Glutamine are the only supps a person can trust imo.
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03-08-2012, 07:20 PM #7
they are feeding you complete bullshit
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03-08-2012, 07:42 PM #8
Sales Pitch! I can almost see some guy in a bad suit and fedora at my door with this crap.
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03-08-2012, 11:59 PM #9
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Some prohormones are legit designer steroids and should be taken with care (not being taken for too long, running PCT after, etc.) Products such as 1-AD, M-1T, Superdrol and Xtreme Tren are very strong stuff. I have experience with Xtreme Tren and 300 mgs./wk of test cyp. Ran the Xtreme Tren for a little over 5 weeks and a couple years later ran the cyp for 6 weeks (decided to cut the cycle short because of excessive hair shedding). I can honestly say I gained more from the Xtreme Tren than I did on the cyp. So from my experiences, prohormones delivered more gains than a lower/moderate dose of test.
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03-09-2012, 12:56 PM #10
Opposite report here. I used huge doses of 1-AD about 7 years ago. Very expensive, TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY compared to real Testosterone . Not to mention the sides, and probable liver toxicity issues. May as well just go drink Sterno.
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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