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    my second cycel need help

    I am wanting to know if you guys think that I am fine to begin my seconde cycle .

    Stats:
    37 years old
    178cm long
    110kg
    20% BF

    I have been working out for 5 years now. I have been hitting it serious for the last two years and have just gotten my diet under control in the last six months. .My first cyle was
    1-4 Anavar 40mg/day
    wk 1-12 Test Prop 100mg/EOD
    wk 1-12 Primo Enan 400-600mg/wk
    7-12 Winstrol 50mg/EOD
    *Aromasin 10mg/EOD
    * HCG 250ius 2x week

    PCT

    Clomid 50/25/25/25/25 +Tamox 20/20/20/20/20
    *Proviron 25mg/ED
    *Sustain Alpha
    Now
    I am looking to gain some mass and become more defined. I am looking at doing a
    Weeks 1 D-bol 10 mgs ED
    Weeks 2 D-bol 20 mgs ED
    Weeks 3-4 D-bol 30 mgs ED
    Weeks 5 D-bol 20 mgs ED
    Weeks 6 D-bol 10 mgs ED
    Weeks 1-2 Anavar 10 mgs ED
    Weeks 3-5 Anavar 20 mgs ED
    Weeks 6-8 Anavar 30 mgs ED
    Weeks 9-10 Anavar 20 mgs ED
    Weeks 11-12 Anavar 10 mgs ED
    7-12 Winstrol 50mg every day
    Weeks 1-6 Test E 500 mgs (250 mg pin Mon & Thu)
    Weeks 6-12 Test Susta 500 mgs (250 mg pin Mon & Thu)
    Weeks 1-12 Deca 400 mgs (200 mg pin Tue & Fri)

    Weeks 1-15 Arimidex .25 mgs E3D
    Weeks 1-15 Dostinex or Caber .25 mg E3D

    PCT starts 3 weeks after your last Test pin....

    Clomid 50/25/25/25/25 +Tamox 20/20/20/20/20
    *Proviron 25mg/ED
    *Sustain Alpha

    Creatine Mono, BCAA's, Casien, Leucine, Vit-C, MultiVit, 30g Om ega3 daily.

    Diet of lean beef, whole egges, salmon, chicken, turkey. Sweet potatoes, white potatoes, quinoa, barley, brown rice. Vegtables and fruit.
    Any thoughts or information that anyone could pass along would be great.

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    at 20% bf you are at higher risk for more side effects. i would give your new diet more time to work.
    3 different orals isnt a good idea in a cycle.
    there is no need to taper doses.
    the dose of the anavar is to low to do anything.
    i would cut out alot of the drugs and make it simpler
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    So what would You do in my case,what would you cut or should i change the whole cycle,any suggestions that can help me

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    Agree with gixxer on letting your diet do its work for a little bit longer before aas. Also I would just run test e.for 12 weeks and kick start with dbol for 4-6. You will see good results. It is hard for many to keep the bloat look down on dbol so keep the diet in check even more so.when your cycling

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    I have to agree w the above, plus I have first hand experience w aas at a higher bf. A spot on diet does wonders. Looks like you're trying to mainly cut, and w a bf that high ( by no means am I saying youre fat), those agents are pointless. Get your bf down by a clran diet then do a good cut cycle

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    i would drop some bf before taking anything
    i would do:
    1-12 test 500mg
    6-14 anavar 60mg
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    here 2 pic of me any suggestions that can help me
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    try shaving that seems to help

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    lol I'm just joking I have been given the same info that everyone else is giving you on cutting the bf

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    now i think i'm gonna change this to

    will this be better choice to lean mass
    1-6 test ethenate 500mg
    1-6 anavar 60mg
    6-12 test sutanon 500mg
    6-14 winstrol 50mg /ED or masteron 100mg/EOD

    or is better choice
    4 iu hgh/ED
    test eth 500mg/wk 12weeks
    and anavar 60 mg /wk 6-12

    plz any advice

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    why are u switching from enethate to sust?
    gh needs to be run for atleast 6 months
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    because i have it in the hand if it's not a good choise i will change it to test ethenate only
    for that i try to build my cycle with them together

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    Do you have any idea your macros? What about cal maintenance? You need to get your diet in check first or youll have worse sides regardless what you take.

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    You're not gonna get any dry lean gains w bf that high.

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    Man my pet monkey dont have that much hair Clyde

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    i have decided to make it even if i don't get any results from.
    i'm just trying to take more from your knowledge how to build the cycle for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by beki View Post
    i have decided to make it even if i don't get any results from.
    i'm just trying to take more from your knowledge how to build the cycle for me
    i already told you what i would recommend. what else are you looking for?
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    ur best bet bsides sum clippers wod be to keep it simple. test and var. diet in check, pct supplies with ai on hand.

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    gixxerboy1 i appreciated your answer
    i take this suggestion
    thnx to all here

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    Beki here is my suggestion. Buy some HGH For a 8 or 9 month cycle. Go natty (except for hgh, start 2iu and work your way up to 4iu ED) for 3 month's and work on getting your bf down. Get a diet plan and stick to it with some cardio added in. Then at month 6 jump on a test/var cycle.

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