Stomach pains from winny

[Stanoswole]

Im doing a 50/50 win cycle for cutting, i recently started it and i got some pains in my stomach which i never felt before. This is my first Oral cycle so I really dont see what the problem is. Ive used Nolvadex for my PCT on my first cycle and didnt feel any pain in my stomach so its pretty odd...

My diet is clean so I dont think thats the problem, ive used Ephedrine aswell and didnt have any problem with that either

Anyone know what to do?

[gixxerboy1]

what is a 50/50 cycle?
your just using winny alone?

[Stanoswole]

50mg for 50 days
Yes, i know alot of my friend who have done it with great results aswell

[gixxerboy1]

what are your stats?

[Stanoswole]

What does my stats have to do with my stomach problems?

6'3"
220lbs
12% BF

Trained for 3 years and its my second cycle

[Stanoswole]

bump

[Schmidty]

try a different brand.

[AD]

hope your pain is not in the right upper quadrant of your abdomen. thats where the liver is.

[christian123]

hope your pain is not in the right upper quadrant of your abdomen. thats where the liver is.

Aha, RIPliver

[Stanoswole]

hope your pain is not in the right upper quadrant of your abdomen. thats where the liver is.

nah lower abs it is, barely drink nowadays either so my liver should be fine

[Stanoswole]

Ive been on for 3 days and today im going off, probably not worth it messing with my inner organs such as kidneys, liver or the stomach itself just to have some more fun on the cut. Gonna start planning for a bulking cycle instead when im done cutting. a cycle that will keep me dry, im not a big fan being bloated.

Anyone got any advices on a fun bulking cycle? Not doing any 19-nor aas thou

[lovbyts]

Probably a good idea coming off. What are you taking for liver support? I would be using milk thistle and Liv52 as well as drinking a LOT more water than usual to help keep you flushed out.

[Stanoswole]

Probably a good idea coming off. What are you taking for liver support? I would be using milk thistle and Liv52 as well as drinking a LOT more water than usual to help keep you flushed out.

Didnt use any, readed that the milk thistle and liv52 is BS so i did it without it only used Glucosamine to support the joints

I drink water to my every meal and drink ~1 litre on the gym

[lovbyts]

LOL, in my opinion Glucosamine is BS. It's never done anything for me but it does help others. Milk Thistle works but is weak for liver support but it's a good old staple and better than nothing. Liv52 I think is better. I use it every day. I had Hep B and I believe Liv52 and milk thistle has helped me have GOOD liver test results for the last 15 years.

[Stanoswole]

LOL, in my opinion Glucosamine is BS. It's never done anything for me but it does help others. Milk Thistle works but is weak for liver support but it's a good old staple and better than nothing. Liv52 I think is better. I use it every day. I had Hep B and I believe Liv52 and milk thistle has helped me have GOOD liver test results for the last 15 years.

Yeah well whatever floats your boat bro, i have barely drinked this year so my liver is all fine. Liv and thistle would be better for those who blasts twice on their cycle with short space between.

If Glucosamine wont work i would buy MSM and Cissius

[boxin23]

LOL, in my opinion Glucosamine is BS. It's never done anything for me but it does help others. Milk Thistle works but is weak for liver support but it's a good old staple and better than nothing. Liv52 I think is better. I use it every day. I had Hep B and I believe Liv52 and milk thistle has helped me have GOOD liver test results for the last 15 years.

Lov I disagree on the milk thistle being weak. My CPA has hepatitis and since she has been on a steady supp. of milk thistle her virus count in has been more than cut in half. She has been on it for years (like 30) and doctors are blown away by her virus count being so low.

To the OP i think it is completely unwise of you to run one of the most liver toxic AAS with no liver supp.

Ohhh..crap lov just read the last part of your post....glad the liv52 and thistle is helping. My CPA has added the liv52 to her regiment now for a couple of years.

[boxin23]

Yeah well whatever floats your boat bro, i have barely drinked this year so my liver is all fine. Liv and thistle would be better for those who blasts twice on their cycle with short space between.

If Glucosamine wont work i would buy MSM and Cissius

I don't think you're getting it. Just because your liver is fine does not mean it will be while your shoving the most liver toxic AAS through it.

[lovbyts]

Yeah well whatever floats your boat bro, i have barely drinked this year so my liver is all fine. Liv and thistle would be better for those who blasts twice on their cycle with short space between.

If Glucosamine wont work i would buy MSM and Cissius

I have/take MSN and Supper Cissus also daily. Cant say Ive ever noticed much of a difference using them or not but since I have them I'm using them and have been regularly for several months.
Just because you dont drink doesnt mean the liver is perfect. It's a good idea to get the blood work done once in a while especially if you cycle but in the mean time it's better to be safe than sorry especially using any type of orals. Either way it's up to you, I was just giving my opinion since you asked.

[Stanoswole]

I don't think you're getting it. Just because your liver is fine does not mean it will be while your shoving the most liver toxic AAS through it.

Yeah I know, just that ive readed on alot of boards that Liv and Thistle is just bullshit and wont do sh1t, but i would consider it the next time if i ever do a oral cycle again.

[Stanoswole]

I have/take MSN and Supper Cissus also daily. Cant say Ive ever noticed much of a difference using them or not but since I have them I'm using them and have been regularly for several months.
Just because you dont drink doesnt mean the liver is perfect. It's a good idea to get the blood work done once in a while especially if you cycle but in the mean time it's better to be safe than sorry especially using any type of orals. Either way it's up to you, I was just giving my opinion since you asked.

Yeah man i know its better to be safe that sorry and i will consider it if ill do a oral cycle again.

Its really induvidual how you responds to Gluc/MSM/Cissius, i know alot of guys it worked wonders on while they've been on winstrol or any other substance which drys your joints out

BTW anyone got any advice on a good cycle which wont bloat you up? Thinking about Prop but it bloated me up last time i did it, would a low dose of masterone be a good choice to run on the side? Or will Adex work just as good keeping the water away?

[Juicyman]

BTW anyone got any advice on a good cycle which wont bloat you up? Thinking about Prop but it bloated me up last time i did it, would a low dose of masterone be a good choice to run on the side? Or will Adex work just as good keeping the water away?

Sure certain STUFF will bloat you more than others. But at the end of the day it's going to come down to ALOT of Factors like diet,Water Intake,Sodium/Potassium levels,Cardio,other dr*gs,etc,etc,,EVERYTHING that passes your lips is up for investigation. Myself and others have proven that we can and do get leaner OR Gain Mass or both on ANY Juice...Whatever.It's the religious work day after day ,meal after meal,water,supplements,sleep,work,cook,kill the iron,cardio. repeat...its no glorious ride most days. but its discipline that allows to control our body. The STUFF is just a tool. Does that make sense?