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    First time cycle for 21 years old.

    I have decided to take riods. I have been already told about the consequences and stuff. But i have to get the results within next 4 months. I have never done any riods before. Please dont respond if you are going to tell me not to take any. I want to get bigger and better before I come back to school in september.

    Yeah I gave up, my willpower sucks. I am 21, Body fat: 13%, height 5'11'', weight 160, traning on and off from last 2 years.

    Please advice me how and what should i take. I am already on 200grams protei a day diet(includes m-vitamins, fishoils and stuff). I know I can achieve what i wanted in a year or two. But I am a victim of instant gratification, I want to get bigger and better before next semster.

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    1. Too young (wait at least 3 more years)
    2. Too light (gain at least 15-20 more lbs of muscle)
    3. Too inexperienced (read more, learn more, when you'll be ready for your cycle, you have to know the compounds you should be using and their profiles by heart).

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    lol, 3 years. I gonna hang myself in that time being. Anyone else?

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    BUt i would need some assistance to know what should i need.

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    I'm not sure why you keep referring to steroids as "riods", but it's fairly analogous of your mindset, if you catch my drift. Anyway, the absurdity of your supposed predicament which indicates that you just have to make gains within the next four months that only anabolic steroids can provide put aside, don't expect to get any advice here. We are happy to explain why taking steroids at 21 is detrimental to your long-term health and hormone production, but we are not interested in telling you how to do a cycle just because you have decided to be irresponsible.

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    and until you learn how to eat properly you will not gain what you could on cycle and will loose every single pound you gain.
    sorry but that is just a fact. if your 160lbs and 5'11 you need to work in the kitchen
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    nobody here is going to help you if you're 21 years old, just so you know

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    The things you have described about yourself are the exact reasons why you should NOT take steroids . There are many reasons, some of the major ones listed above. Unfortunately for you, this is not the type of place where people line up to tell you all the things you want to hear so we can make new internet bros. Anybody who tells you right now to hold off, is doing so because they are looking out for what is best for you and your health while your judgment is temporarily clouded. Good luck with your endeavors, but you will not get the advise you are seeking here...

    PS, just out of curiosity, why do you HAVE to be bigger in 4months?

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    ok if thats the case I am 25. Happy now?
    Can you please help me now?

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    If you want to waste money on chemicals to gain muscle instead of learning how to do it correctly, go to GNC and ask one of their employees what to take to get "bigger and better". You'll actually save some money on taking chemicals that will only end up leaving you the exact same size a few months later, which is going to be the case if you take anabolics.

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    no. dont be a fool.

    muscles are made in the kitchen bro...clearly you havent realized this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    ok if thats the case I am 25. Happy now?
    Can you please help me now?
    you still dont know how to eat to grow or to keep the little you will gain. Doesnt matter if your 18, 25 or 40. Your probelm is in the kitchen. steroids arent a band aid
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    I know couple of dudes who are 20 and take steroids . I dont know why noone is willing to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    ok if thats the case I am 25. Happy now?
    Can you please help me now?
    you aren't even reading what ppl are telling you. you just want the quick answer. you won't find it here.

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    The truth is if you cycle before your own testosterone as fully developed and matured you could end up with some nasty sides what would cause you alot of problems, sides like low sex drive, limp dick, depression, weight loss and hrt for life to name a small few. From looking at your stats your problem is you dont know how to eat to gain mass so even if you took a boat load of steroids you will lose all the gains anyway after the cycle because your diet cant and wont support any new tissue, so your risking life time sides for zero gains.

    You want the truth, sort your diet and build a base for the next few yrs and you will be in a better position.

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    I have gained 5 lbs in last 3 weeks, but I just want to speed up the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    I have gained 5 lbs in last 3 weeks, but I just want to speed up the process.
    and 90% of that mass was fat, i can guarantee it to you. you don't know how to eat properly, therefore steroids WILL NOT help you. they only work with a very strict diet

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    and you probly dont have a clue about pct. just adding my .2

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    For people who kept on telling me I dont know what to eat:

    Here is what i my dialy diet consit of:
    Meal 1: 5 boiled eggs, 1 pack of instant oatmeal and 1 scoop of whey protein
    meal 2: 1 tb spoon of peanut butter & suger free jam with 3 toasted breads, a banana, 10 almonds
    meal 3: pita with ground beef and 200grams of cottage cheese
    meal 4:2 scoops of whey after workout with 10 almonds
    meal 5: I cycle ground beef, chicken, salmon, ham and pork in a week.

    ^ thats what i had today
    inbetween sometime i have canned tuna and stuff.

    TRUTH: I dont even remember the last time i ate from a fast food place. I use to be a big guy when i was yound(14-15). I used to weight 190 pounds. From last 3 years I went from 26% BF to 13%.

    I dont want to be ignorant but i just want to let eveybody know.

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    You've done a superb job of ignoring everything we've explained to you.

    We are not going to tell you how to cycle steroids. Stop wasting your time.

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    this diet is not sufficient for gaining weight. If you want help with it, we have very knowledgeable members in the diet section. They will be able to work your diet so you begin to increase lean mass.

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    sweet, didn't help. I've to talk to my meathead buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    sweet, didn't help. I've to talk to my meathead buddy.
    I didn't help because you refuse to let it, you have your stubborn mind set on what you want to do, & you're not listening to the voice of reason & logic. Don't be so impatient man, do this the right way. If you're willing to give it a go, I bet we could help you put together a diet & training regime that will yield some very impressive gains in short order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    I have gained 5 lbs in last 3 weeks, but I just want to speed up the process.
    thats pretty good gains you made. how much faster do you want it to be?

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    I wish I was 21 again and knew how to diet and had the workout reg that I have now. Steroids would be the least of my concern!

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    Why do you have to be so hard headed? Just do it they way your suppose to and you will be happy.WAIT a minute are you trying to impress some chick at school? Thats it isnt it you think if you show up with some 14 inch guns.That she will be impressed dont you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    I know couple of dudes who are 20 and take steroids . I dont know why noone is willing to help.
    No one wants to actively help you because your profile suggests that aas (steroids or ''roids") is something that we believe is not in your best interests. We do not believe taking steroids under "any conditions" is an intelligent path, and we like to be able to sleep at night, which is why the lack of support from us on your intended path. We are not comfortable giving adivice if said advice is not in your best interests.

    You can help yourself by searching and reading all the hundreds/thousands of similar threads and form your own conclusion/opinion. The info is out there. All you have to do is look.

    No one can tell you what to do. My son is your age, and i talk to him regularly about the risks of taking aas too soon. He's got a good head on his shoulders, and listens to my consultations.

    There are other boards out there that are less concerned about who they give advice too. another thought is that maybe you can seek out one of those?

    Up to you, and good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog
    Why do you have to be so hard headed? Just do it they way your suppose to and you will be happy.WAIT a minute are you trying to impress some chick at school? Thats it isnt it you think if you show up with some 14 inch guns.That she will be impressed dont you?
    Lol thats jokes. Its always because of the vag

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Why do you have to be so hard headed? Just do it they way your suppose to and you will be happy.WAIT a minute are you trying to impress some chick at school? Thats it isnt it you think if you show up with some 14 inch guns.That she will be impressed dont you?
    what if she likes skinny guys? better stay of the juice, just in case

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    I want to work as a bouncer , and all of my buds who works there are on juice. Yep man, everything ends at a *****.

    If I can pull a lot more girls with small tescticles and a bit acne on my back, I wouldnot care about that.
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    I thoguht about running var only cycle, but I don't think that would be a good idea.

    I will start my first dbol and deca cycle next week. I will post progress report. I am thinking about 6 weeks cycle and cut it with winstrol . Let me know how what should I take for pct
    Last edited by trance; 03-12-2012 at 09:51 PM.

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    LOL good luck with ur limp dick goals and natural test shutdowns of 2012/the rest of ur life mate. Deca and dbol LOOOOOOL thats the worst you can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    I thoguht about running var only cycle, but I don't think that would be a good idea.

    I will start my first dbol and deca cycle next week. I will post progress report. I am thinking about 6 weeks cycle and cut it with winstrol . Let me know how what should I take for pct
    bro thats honestly the WORST cycle you could ever do....ever heard of "deca dick?" if your gonna use AAS against everyone's advice, at least do some research and figure out what your doing. god help you...seriously.

    lulz 6 week deca only cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance
    I thoguht about running var only cycle, but I don't think that would be a good idea.

    I will start my first dbol and deca cycle next week. I will post progress report. I am thinking about 6 weeks cycle and cut it with winstrol . Let me know how what should I take for pct
    Bro seriously do not I mean do not run that cycle, you will f*** yourself bad in the future. Your way out of your league. RESEARCH! It's so so easy and there are so many good first cycles out there. Just search the forum. Should you do a cycle. Hell no! But obviously your going to just do not run the one you posted. I will not tell you a cycle but I seriously do not want to see you mess up even more with a horrible cycle. My only hint I can give you is research a test e only cycle.... Then research post cycle treatment. I don't want you to run a cycle but if you will ignore all of us then I will at least give you that advice.

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    Thanks everyone, test E is it an orable anabolic or injectable?
    Is it a short form for testrosone anabolic...

    P.s. Writing this on my phone. Please ignore the spelling mistakes.

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    Dont do it do test e 250mg /week for 12 weeks then do pct 14 days after ur last shot... But dont pay attention to me I dont kno

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    dude just stop before you hurt yourself...seriously you can do PERMANENT DAMAGE to your body. you obviously have no idea what your doing if your asking if test e is oral or IM

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    I thoguht about running var only cycle, but I don't think that would be a good idea.

    I will start my first dbol and deca cycle next week. I will post progress report. I am thinking about 6 weeks cycle and cut it with winstrol . Let me know how what should I take for pct
    can you please report back after you pick up a girl and she laughs in your face when you cant get it up cause of this cycle. I want to be able to show it to the other young guys who want to cycle
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Try these for a while before trying the real thing
    http://www.steroids.com/

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    Nobody would tell me anything. Everybody just kept telling me that I don't know shit about steroids , I know I don't. But how am I suppose to learn. Atleast post some links or something.

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