TEST E/ EQ CYCLE help needed

[mark44x]

Hey guys im currently running test E at 500mg per week and EQ at 400mg per week. im into my second week of this cycle. I am 6'1 and about 215 pounds. I have done a couple Test cycles before. My plans for this cycle were to run the Test and EQ for 12 weeks. I am looking to add lean muscle and definition, not get bulky. My diet is very strict with high protein, quality carbs, good fats.
I can extend this cycle to 16 weeks. I wanted to hear some feedback on that on what you guys think. I can also get anavar, masteron or Primo to throw into this cycle. So any thoughts or ideas on these 3 items would be greatly appreciated on when to throw it into the cycle and how much to use.
i will have Nolva as my PcT. How should i use that at the end of all of this? Thanks!

[bjpennnn]

Well, I like eq even though a lot here do not like it, but i would never run it less then 16 weeks. 16 weeks with that dose of test through in some mast and eq if your diet is on point you will look great man. Mast makes every cycle better. just remeber it can tear peoples hair apart so if that is something you are into be warned. also eq at 400mg a week is not going to cut it. I would say 600-800mg is best. It is a weak steroid.

[Bigshotvictoria]

Well, I like eq even though a lot here do not like it, but i would never run it less then 16 weeks. 16 weeks with that dose of test through in some mast and eq if your diet is on point you will look great man. Mast makes every cycle better. just remeber it can tear peoples hair apart so if that is something you are into be warned. also eq at 400mg a week is not going to cut it. I would say 600-800mg is best. It is a weak steroid.

I fully agree on a longer cycle with eq. My last was T-400, 400mg/wk Eq 600mg a week. I stopped at 10 weeks and felt like the eq hadn't even kicked in, just felt the test gains. Upping the dose is a good idea too, 600 seems to be the go to dose for eq on a bulk.

[stpete]

EQ is weak and as BJ said, needs to be ran at 600-800 and for at least 16 weeks. Not worth it imo.

I see you've been training for 2 years. How old are you?

[mark44x]

ive been training for years. im currently 26 ...starting my first test cycle around 2007/2008

[mark44x]

so ill just increase the eq to 600mg a week... and run both the test (at 500) and eq (at 600) for 16 weeks then

[stpete]

I would add some clomid in w/that PCT.

[mark44x]

i can't just do nolva by itself? i can get nolva easily, don't know if i can get my hands on clomid

[fontazya]

definately up eq to 600mg/week.. masteron can be a nice addition last 6 weeks of cycle if u can.. if u cant get clomid try gettin some hcg.. will make pct and recovery a lot easier.. also 12 weeks is bare minimum with eq.. try go for longer

[mark44x]

masteron for the last 6 weeks? i am not very educated on the masteron so i have to research it. How long does masteron take to kick in? is there a minimum amount of time the masteron should be run for? I do know from some research masteron is very effective if you have low body fat % as it will harden you up. I am not in the single digits for body fat % yet but i should get there within the next few weeks with my strict dieting.

and hcg is expensive. i believe i can get some of that. i was lead to believe by some of my friends that nolva alone would be just fine for me

[DeadlyD]

I would add some clomid in w/that PCT.

^^^^ I agree with stpete, if you decide to go for 16 weeks you will def want clomid and nolva maybe HCG aswell !!

Clomid -100/100/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
HCG - 250iu 2x week

[fontazya]

mast p has proprionate ester so kicks in fairly quick.. within a week.. i would not run it less than 4 weeks and at 400mg/week.. yes u should try get bf down as much as u can because the lower the bf the better the results with mast..vascularity and hardness on mast is insane one of the best steroids and a good alternative to tren

[gixxerboy1]

you can get clomid and an ai at ar-r

[mark44x]

ok so test E ill run for 16 weeks at 500mg per week
......ill bump up the EQ to 600mg per week for 16 weeks
ill hop on masteron for 6-8 weeks at 400mg per week
ill take the nolva 40/40/20/20
and ill look to get my hands on some clomid
...now when exactly would i start the nolva and clomid??

[fontazya]

start nolva and clomid 14 days after last test shot.. u can continue masteron into this 14 days as long as u finish approx 3 days before nolva/clomid as it is a shorter ester.. eq should be stopped 3 weeks before pct therefore only run eq for 15 weeks.

[mark44x]

ok thanks bro!

[Hazard]

The EQ is going to be a complete waste..... you woulda been better off with a 12 week test cycle and some anavar for a lean bulk. You wouldn't be on cycle as long and you'd actually see some results.

Many guys have run EQ at large doses (1000mg's/wk myself) and didn't see a damn thing. To each their own tho..... some need physical proof to believe it.

~Haz~

[mark44x]

alot of guys ive talked to have had good results with the EQ. one of my friends has run if for 8 months.

[jpowell]

currently running this cycle. tomaros pin marks 4th week.

[Hazard]

alot of guys ive talked to have had good results with the EQ. one of my friends has run if for 8 months.

Oh thats a great idea..... EQ increases RBC pretty effectively - one of the only things it actually does well. I'd like to see what his RBC count was after 8months of use..... too high of a count causes problems and even hospitalization for polycythemia. People usually have a high count from just running testosterone for a few months..... let alone EQ for 8 months.

~Haz~

[mark44x]

jpowell what are the dosages you are using and for how long?
how is your pct looking?

[jpowell]

jpowell what are the dosages you are using and for how long?
how is your pct looking?

t-400mg wk
eq-600mg wk

pct clomid and tamox,
ai-adex on on hand.

i started off with 1 pin a week, then switched to 2pins a week mon/thurs split following e3d rule.
1cc of test, 1cc of eq--so total inject wod b 2 cc

switched up to .5cc test, 1cc of eq.
as i have heard run eq at least 12-15 weeks, i will take my cycle out proli to 16 weeks. i originally planned on doing only a 10-12 week cycle.
start pct 14 days after last pin of test.

[Hazard]

t-400mg wk
eq-600mg wk

pct clomid and tamox,
ai-adex on on hand.

i started off with 1 pin a week, then switched to 2pins a week mon/thurs split following e3d rule.
1cc of test, 1cc of eq--so total inject wod b 2 cc

switched up to .5cc test, 1cc of eq.
as i have heard run eq at least 12-15 weeks, i will take my cycle out proli to 16 weeks. i originally planned on doing only a 10-12 week cycle.
start pct 14 days after last pin of test.

Would you mind posting before and after stats when the cyvcle is complete? Photos from now and at 16 weeks would be better if at all possible.....

To the OP..... please come back and update us on how the cycle goes.... if at all possible please take before and after pics. Not everyone is comfortable doing it so I understand if not.

~Haz~

[MickeyKnox]

This ^^^

Sub'd for results.

[jpowell]

Would you mind posting before and after stats when the cyvcle is complete? Photos from now and at 16 weeks would be better if at all possible....
~Haz~

YEA FORSURE. I'm taking weekly progress pics so itl b nice, i can c the difference and my body transforming already. i have noticed loosely fitting clothes and bagginess. the best part is I'm getting to small for my belt. the worst part, is having to buy smaller new clothes.