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    cebby1985 is offline Associate Member
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    i want to switch from e/c to clen........

    I'm currently taking ephedrine. 40mg @ 6am, 32@ 10am and 24 at 2pm. I carry a thermos if coffee w me all day, which is about 6 cups and I drink a 0cal monster w my 2 pm dose for pre workout. My diet is and has been spot on. I started w ec to see how I would handler it before switching to clen . i have an elevated heart rate through out the day obviously ( pulse is 84bpm) and slows down to my normal 60-63 non at night. I have no high bp or palpitations.

    I already have clen on the way from ar so I do plan on using it w my cut cycle. Here's a couple questions
    1. Is it worth it? I guess ill find out as I've read tons about the stuff
    2. How can I make the transfer from ec to clen? Just stop ec abs start clen? Should i taper off ec then stsrt clen?
    3. I've gathered that ec stimulates multiple receptors, including beta 2, but clen hits beta 2 only. Ive read also that 2 on clen, 2 off is typical and using ec between is ok, if this is tge case w receptors, wouldn't I need keto regardless and may as well run clen w keto for a longer time

    As far as dose, I'm a pretty cautious person so to start im gonna do 20mcg and increase by 20mcg ed and just not push it on my first cycle.

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    Anyone?

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    You may want to pick up some L-Taurine for cramping, but there are no special requirements, just switch.

    Quote Originally Posted by cebby1985 View Post
    I'm currently taking ephedrine. 40mg @ 6am, 32@ 10am and 24 at 2pm. I carry a thermos if coffee w me all day, which is about 6 cups and I drink a 0cal monster w my 2 pm dose for pre workout. My diet is and has been spot on. I started w ec to see how I would handler it before switching to clen . i have an elevated heart rate through out the day obviously ( pulse is 84bpm) and slows down to my normal 60-63 non at night. I have no high bp or palpitations.

    I already have clen on the way from ar so I do plan on using it w my cut cycle. Here's a couple questions
    1. Is it worth it? I guess ill find out as I've read tons about the stuff Depends on your diet and training.
    2. How can I make the transfer from ec to clen? Just stop ec abs start clen? Yes
    Should i taper off ec then stsrt clen? Not necessary
    3. I've gathered that ec stimulates multiple receptors, including beta 2, but clen hits beta 2 only. Ive read also that 2 on clen, 2 off is typical and using ec between is ok, if this is tge case w receptors, wouldn't I need keto regardless and may as well run clen w keto for a longer time
    Clen is optimally used on a continuous basis, not 2wks on 2wks off. However, should you choose the two week method, no, it is not permissible to use Ephedra when off, that would be tantamount to not stopping. The two week method pre-supposes that after two weeks of Clen usage your receptors need an additional two weeks to refresh (not true), and using Ephedra (which as you pointed out also works at the receptor level) would negate your Clen off time.

    As far as dose, I'm a pretty cautious person so to start im gonna do 20mcg and increase by 20mcg ed and just not push it on my first cycle. Start with 20 mcg and increase daily by that amount til you reach your plateau dosage...optimally between 120-160 mcg.
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    Thank you for the input magic
    I've been on a cut, losing 60lbs, since Sept. My diet is at about an 800 cal per day deficit w macros in line and all food weighed. I have a background in powerlifting and I've been able to maintain just about all my strength they the cut but w some of clens properties, i think it would suit better because I also plan on doing another meet.

    As far as cycle length, I feel I would like a longer cycle w keto. Do you suggest 6 wks or longer?

    I will be getting both taurine and potassium

    I'm sure this has been asked, but caffeine, mainly through coffee while on clen us ok as my body allows correct?

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