Euipoise vs. Deca in a test cycle

[Thunderforge]

Just wondering what you guys think of those two compounds. What's your experience? Which preformed better for you?

Thanks for the info.

[gixxerboy1]

eq sucks end of story

[shadowinist717]

From my experience I gained 5lbs of muscle with an 8week mini cycle of eq. Muscles went from scronny to bulk dense hard quality muscle definition. Plus it was stacked with test prop and test E

[gixxerboy1]

From my experience I gained 5lbs of muscle with an 8week mini cycle of eq. Muscles went from scronny to bulk dense hard quality muscle definition. Plus it was stacked with test prop and test E

it was from that not the eq

[songdog]

Bro not being rude but if you need to ask a question like that.That tells me you have not did any research.Educate b4 you medicate.

[Far from massive]

Deca stacks up against Equipose like Mike Tyson (Deca) vs Michael Jackson (EQ).....not much of a comparison.

[BigBadWolf]

Deca stacks up against Equipose like Mike Tyson (Deca) vs Michael Jackson (EQ).....not much of a comparison.

In a fight or dance off?

[Thunderforge]

Bro not being rude but if you need to ask a question like that.That tells me you have not did any research.Educate b4 you medicate.

Hi Songdog,

I see this kind of response often here. I don't take offense from your comment so please don't take offense from mine. I'm not trying to be rude either ok?

This is often how I do try to educate myself. I've done research on the both compounds and am currently trying a test/deca cycle. Looking at the profiles of both compounds here you do NOT get the whole picture for either. I'm simply asking for the personal experience of the members here. Not the textbook descriptions of the steroids. Any insight you or other members have is what I am after. "Doing research" is a blanket term that I see tossed out often. I'll ask you then. Apart from simply googling the compounds or searching the old posts with the term "equipoise" what would you suggest I do to find out about the compounds.

Asking the vets for advice/opinions seems the smartest course of action to me.

[DeadlyD]

In a fight or dance off?

Lol!!

[markdbg]

depends what u want, deca will give u way more size and strength gains, stronger compound, most ppl blow up and hold 10-15 pounds of water while on it,eq on the other hand ull grow and look hard lean and veiny. wont gain as much size or strength but ull loook more freakish. both good compounds but bring different things to the table. im a huge fan of eq personally. i love the hunger it brings, hungry all day. which helps with gains.

just depends on the look you want

[frank13]

Hi Songdog,

I see this kind of response often here. I don't take offense from your comment so please don't take offense from mine. I'm not trying to be rude either ok?

This is often how I do try to educate myself. I've done research on the both compounds and am currently trying a test/deca cycle. Looking at the profiles of both compounds here you do NOT get the whole picture for either. I'm simply asking for the personal experience of the members here. Not the textbook descriptions of the steroids. Any insight you or other members have is what I am after. "Doing research" is a blanket term that I see tossed out often. I'll ask you then. Apart from simply googling the compounds or searching the old posts with the term "equipoise" what would you suggest I do to find out about the compounds.

Asking the vets for advice/opinions seems the smartest course of action to me.

o shit songdog just got served son

[songdog]

Hi Songdog,

I see this kind of response often here. I don't take offense from your comment so please don't take offense from mine. I'm not trying to be rude either ok?

This is often how I do try to educate myself. I've done research on the both compounds and am currently trying a test/deca cycle. Looking at the profiles of both compounds here you do NOT get the whole picture for either. I'm simply asking for the personal experience of the members here. Not the textbook descriptions of the steroids. Any insight you or other members have is what I am after. "Doing research" is a blanket term that I see tossed out often. I'll ask you then. Apart from simply googling the compounds or searching the old posts with the term "equipoise" what would you suggest I do to find out about the compounds.

Asking the vets for advice/opinions seems the smartest course of action to me.

None taken Bro glad to see you hit the profile section.Most want to be spoon fed

[hankdiesel]

depends what u want, deca will give u way more size and strength gains, stronger compound, most ppl blow up and hold 10-15 pounds of water while on it,eq on the other hand ull grow and look hard lean and veiny. wont gain as much size or strength but ull loook more freakish. both good compounds but bring different things to the table. im a huge fan of eq personally. i love the hunger it brings, hungry all day. which helps with gains.

just depends on the look you want

I hear people say this all the time. "It makes me hungry." So what! So does deadlifts or a good leg routine! Eq is garbage. Anyone who makes gains off it is making the gains off the test and whatever else they are stacking in there. And I love the whole "it needs to be ran for 16 weeks" theory. Then you're suppose to run the test 2 weeks after that. That makes for an 18 week cycle. Good luck recovering.

[fontazya]

EQ is much more milder and weaker steroid.. however it does bring about nice solid slow gains but most people underdose thats why dont see good results with this.. minimum 600mg/week.. however some people have used more and still dont get much.. everyone reacts differently i guess

[Hazard]

depends what u want, deca will give u way more size and strength gains, stronger compound, most ppl blow up and hold 10-15 pounds of water while on it,eq on the other hand ull grow and look hard lean and veiny. wont gain as much size or strength but ull loook more freakish. both good compounds but bring different things to the table. im a huge fan of eq personally. i love the hunger it brings, hungry all day. which helps with gains.

just depends on the look you want

Okay..... where does it say, anywhere on the internet, that Deca makes people hold 10-15lbs of water? 10-15lbs is about what people gain on a cycle..... so you're saying that people gain just water on a test/deca cycle and no muscle? I can run higher doses of test e and not hold any water.... or atleast not much..... even with no AI. My father on the other hand only runs 250mg's and needs a diuretic from the doc.

Regarding EQ making you look freaky....... in what way? You mean if you can't get your bodyfat under control so you use a drug that rapidly increases RBC's and bloodpressure so you can finally have veins? Or do you mean it hardens you up? Because if you meant it hardens you up then that would solely depends on how low bodyfat you are to see it. If the majority of people say masteron wont show much results unless you're single digit BF then how the hell will EQ show results?

Regarding the hunger..... it's the biggest bs excuse for people to like EQ. Take digestive enzymes and forcefeed yourself for a few weeks until you are used to the new amount. Why inject a drug to help you eat food? Doesn't make any fvckin sense.....

~Haz~

[boxin23]

Okay..... where does it say, anywhere on the internet, that Deca makes people hold 10-15lbs of water? 10-15lbs is about what people gain on a cycle..... so you're saying that people gain just water on a test/deca cycle and no muscle? I can run higher doses of test e and not hold any water.... or atleast not much..... even with no AI. My father on the other hand only runs 250mg's and needs a diuretic from the doc.

Regarding EQ making you look freaky....... in what way? You mean if you can't get your bodyfat under control so you use a drug that rapidly increases RBC's and bloodpressure so you can finally have veins? Or do you mean it hardens you up? Because if you meant it hardens you up then that would solely depends on how low bodyfat you are to see it. If the majority of people say masteron wont show much results unless you're single digit BF then how the hell will EQ show results?

Regarding the hunger..... it's the biggest bs excuse for people to like EQ. Take digestive enzymes and forcefeed yourself for a few weeks until you are used to the new amount. Why inject a drug to help you eat food? Doesn't make any fvckin sense.....

~Haz~

what haz said in bold....i agree

[boxin23]

oh yeah and just on Hazards point. When i ran my first tren cycle, i was saying shit like "i heard it makes you eat more"......and now i truly know that eating more, makes you eat more. Does that not make sense. Sure tren has that characteristic, but why use a drug to make you eat more.....unless you're a cow and need to gain weight so you can be slaughtered in 2 months.

haha

[Hazard]

Also..... how much damn food are you cramming into your gullet that you can't eat it without the help of drugs!? For christ sakes I grow off 3500-4000 calories..... what are we trying to do hear? Eat 6000 calories a day? A lot of people like to talk about how they eat soooo much food but the truth is..... while diet is important.... very important..... you don't need to eat a fvcking cow and a 10lb bag of rice every night to grow.

~Haz~

[boxin23]

Also..... how much damn food are you cramming into your gullet that you can't eat it without the help of drugs!? For christ sakes I grow off 3500-4000 calories..... what are we trying to do hear? Eat 6000 calories a day? A lot of people like to talk about how they eat soooo much food but the truth is..... while diet is important.... very important..... you don't need to eat a fvcking cow and a 10lb bag of rice every night to grow.

~Haz~

Another good point.....post up your diet to the macro.....so many people are eating 4-5K in cals but it is garbage or on the other hand they never figured out the macros and think they are eating a ton and really they are eating 2500 to 3000 cals.

[JDBeretta]

I have never tried Deca, so I can't comment on it. I am currently taking Eq at a dose of 600mgs/week (actually, 200mgs/eod) and am really early in the cycle so I can't say to much about it, either. Pretty useless, I know. I just like to see myself type.

This is why I chose to run Eq: My friend, who has been in the AAS game for 10+ years and has competed on stage, asked me what I was looking for in my next cycle. I told him I wanted to make some good gains of quality muscle and still look ripped. I like looking vascular and I want to not blow up and lose all of it right after the cycle is done. He knows that I am not a huge fan of packing down calories all day long. He knows that I have a very mild shoulder issue that is hidden when I'm on cycle. He knows that I train pretty hard and eat fairly decently... So anyways, I suggested Deca and he suggested I try Eq. His justification was the fact that, for him, his joints just fvckin kill him when he comes of of Deca and that Eq helps his appetite. Although he never knocked Deca, he said that from what I told him, and what he knows of me, that he'd suggest Eq.

I'll likely give Deca a try for my next cycle.

Told ya I like to see myself type.

[hankdiesel]

I have never tried Deca, so I can't comment on it. I am currently taking Eq at a dose of 600mgs/week (actually, 200mgs/eod) and am really early in the cycle so I can't say to much about it, either. Pretty useless, I know. I just like to see myself type.

This is why I chose to run Eq: My friend, who has been in the AAS game for 10+ years and has competed on stage, asked me what I was looking for in my next cycle. I told him I wanted to make some good gains of quality muscle and still look ripped. I like looking vascular and I want to not blow up and lose all of it right after the cycle is done. He knows that I am not a huge fan of packing down calories all day long. He knows that I have a very mild shoulder issue that is hidden when I'm on cycle. He knows that I train pretty hard and eat fairly decently... So anyways, I suggested Deca and he suggested I try Eq. His justification was the fact that, for him, his joints just fvckin kill him when he comes of of Deca and that Eq helps his appetite. Although he never knocked Deca, he said that from what I told him, and what he knows of me, that he'd suggest Eq.

I'll likely give Deca a try for my next cycle.

Told ya I like to see myself type.

That's 700mg a week of eq. How much test are your running? How many cycles have to ran in the past? How long are you going to run this eq. When the cycle is over start a thread stating your results.

[ddp2727]

Also..... how much damn food are you cramming into your gullet that you can't eat it without the help of drugs!? For christ sakes I grow off 3500-4000 calories..... what are we trying to do hear? Eat 6000 calories a day? A lot of people like to talk about how they eat soooo much food but the truth is..... while diet is important.... very important.....


* you don't need to eat a fvcking cow and a 10lb bag of rice every night to grow.*

~Haz~

So your telling me to sell my cattle and plow under my rice fields and just buy the standard amount of food from the grocer? JK

[JDBeretta]

That's 700mg a week of eq. How much test are your running? How many cycles have to ran in the past? How long are you going to run this eq. When the cycle is over start a thread stating your results.

I am running the same amount of test. This is my 3rd cycle (if you count some little BS cycle from a while back). I plan on running this cycle for 20weeks. I know that's a long time, everyone just chill. I'm running .5mg/eod of Arimidex while on and am going to start HCG when the boys shrink some more. For pct I'm gonna run Nolva and a friend of mine talked about running HGH... I need more clarity from him before I can comment more on it. Apparently it bounces you back pretty well if used in a pct.

[BBrian]

Well, markdbg did hit on the key points to answer your question for the most part. Nandrolone and Equipoise play very different roles in terms of gains and physique, so it simply depends on what your goals are. Nandrolone is more effective in a bulking cycle, while Equipoise is more effective for cutting. Everyone seems to have conflicting opinions of Equipoise (and some people act like Equipoise manifested itself and punched their mom in the face), so if you want to find out for yourself, just give it a shot.

[Schmidty]

ill do EQ over deca any day!

[hankdiesel]

I am running the same amount of test. This is my 3rd cycle (if you count some little BS cycle from a while back). I plan on running this cycle for 20weeks. I know that's a long time, everyone just chill. I'm running .5mg/eod of Arimidex while on and am going to start HCG when the boys shrink some more. For pct I'm gonna run Nolva and a friend of mine talked about running HGH... I need more clarity from him before I can comment more on it. Apparently it bounces you back pretty well if used in a pct.

hgh and nolvadex is your pct for a 20 week cycle.............good luck.

[JDBeretta]

hgh and nolvadex is your pct for a 20 week cycle.............good luck.

Thanks. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm gonna predict it will go perfectly.

[Thunderforge]

Awesome info! Thanks everyone for participating!

[MickeyKnox]

hgh and nolvadex is your pct for a 20 week cycle.............good luck.

Thanks. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm gonna predict it will go perfectly.

umm...im pretty sure that comment from Hank was tongue in cheek. i could be wrong, but i don't believe he is endorsing your hgh/nolva pct for a 20wk cycle. if he is, i just learned something new..as i always do here.

[JDBeretta]

Yeah, I caught that. Thanks.

I'm not going to throw Clomid in on this pct. I'll bounce back as the HCG will help towards the end of the cycle, I'm running Arimidex on cycle, and I'm taking GH and Nolva to restore depleted levels...

I'd be happy to consider any justified suggestions rather than just saying "good luck".

[MickeyKnox]

actually, to be honest i think you have it covered bro. i'll have to tune back in a few months from now to see how your long cycle went. hope it works out and the results are favorable for you. cheers.

[JDBeretta]

Cool, thanks. I am by no means very knowledgeable about AAS use yet, but am trying to learn and have learned quite a bit.

I am thankful that I found this forum and have at least 1 friend that has used juice for quite some time.

But as I said, I'd be happy to research any substantiated suggestions.

[decaDump]

Hi Songdog,

I see this kind of response often here. I don't take offense from your comment so please don't take offense from mine. I'm not trying to be rude either ok?

This is often how I do try to educate myself. I've done research on the both compounds and am currently trying a test/deca cycle. Looking at the profiles of both compounds here you do NOT get the whole picture for either. I'm simply asking for the personal experience of the members here. Not the textbook descriptions of the steroids. Any insight you or other members have is what I am after. "Doing research" is a blanket term that I see tossed out often. I'll ask you then. Apart from simply googling the compounds or searching the old posts with the term "equipoise" what would you suggest I do to find out about the compounds.

Asking the vets for advice/opinions seems the smartest course of action to me.

Good one. I see these people giving newbies a hard time when in fact they're doing research. Geesh!

[decaDump]

Last year, I did a bottle of 50 cc (50 mg) of EQ. I injected 2 cc (100 mg) every 3 days and took Sustanon 250 every 10 days. I did not do any pct which is not recommended but gained 6 solid lbs of quality mass and kept it. I personally like EQ as a nice little cycle. Shit, I just might stack it with tbol this time keeping the same cycle.

[breakbones]

None taken Bro glad to see you hit the profile section.Most want to be spoon fed

Most do want to be spoon fed, but people should understand that a close mouth don't get fed, And the purpose of these threads are to read, gain knowledge and ask questions. PERIOD!

[gixxerboy1]

stop bumping old threads for no reason

[losieloos]

Deca ftw.

[testluva]

Deca for slow gains of quality muscle, strength and size. EQ if you BF% is low for freaky vascular and a ripped body. Frickin veins will be popping out all over your arms and body.

[WMSuperSport]

So is there any word on JDBerettas results? I'm very curious