I dont understand how one abuses steroids and gets put onto TRT for the rest of there

**leather daddy** · 03-25-2012, 03:00 AM

life

please explain. IF the point of using clomid and nolva for pct is to restore test levels why not just issue them to people who are in need of TRT/HRT? and how does it occur from abusing steroids ?

**marcus300** · 03-25-2012, 03:27 AM

Because their natural test wont restore to normal levels anymore, thats why your put on hrt/trt

**leather daddy** · 03-25-2012, 03:58 AM

so isnt there any drug out there that can restore it? But if we use clomid and nolva to restore natural test levels after cycle, why cant patients do the same?

**marcus300** · 03-25-2012, 04:06 AM

because their natural test wont restore no matter what they use or do,

With constantly shutting down and recovering your HPTA your natural testosterone gets weaker and weaker over time, with some its happens quickly with others it doesn't. Obviously the older we get our levels decline anyway so getting regular blood work before and after cycling you will get an idea how your doing.

**leather daddy** · 03-25-2012, 04:10 AM

ahh i see, cheers marcus

**gonzo6183** · 03-25-2012, 04:17 AM

Have a read about triptorelin, intersting product, I might try it myslef

**leather daddy** · 03-25-2012, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by oznog6183

Have a read about triptorelin, intersting product, I might try it myslef

will do mate, cheers

**lovbyts** · 03-25-2012, 05:05 AM

Sometimes it just does not matter what you use for PCT even triptorelin. Sometimes things just dont go back to normal and you end up on TRT. It's a risk only you can take but be well informed and not ignorant thinking it CANT happen to you.

**leather daddy** · 03-25-2012, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts;5950***

Sometimes it just does not matter what you use for PCT even triptorelin. Sometimes things just dont go back to normal and you end up on TRT. It's a risk only you can take but be well informed and not ignorant thinking it CANT happen to you.

that is true mate,

cheers for ur input

**hankdiesel** · 03-25-2012, 08:32 AM

Before I started hrt I did a pct of clomid/nolv/hcg . I waited 20 weeks after that before getting bloodwork done and my test levels were still very low. If I didn't recover from that pct then I'm not going to recover. I think if you do enough cycles this is bound to happen. Not for everyone of coarse. There are those who recover better than others.
Then there are those like myself who are faced with a choice. Be on hrt for life and have low testosterone levels . It was a no brainer for me.