My 1st cycle question.

[sedde]

Hello, i am based in greece and if i go to a pharmacy here, i can get Testoviron from Bayer/Schering for about 2.5 euro per ampoule.

Amp is 250mg/ml of enanthate test.

I was wondering, since its human grade, isn't it better to run it, that run something from a UGL ?

I was gonna run test e 500mgs/week and buy some tren e to run at 300mgs/w.

I know everything for pct, and i will be running proviron from day 1 to the end of the cycle.

Mainly my question is if Testoviron will do the job, since its really cheaper and i can get it at human grade.

[DeadlyD]

Welcome aboard friend, you are absolutely correct, pharm grade is your best choice! First id like to ask for some stats and your cycle history as well as diet and training history, with that info all of us here will be able to help you much better.

[< <Samson> >]

I wish I can buy test enen locally. . . . lol

[sedde]

Well i weighted 105kg and i am 1.80. But after hard training and diet i went down to 85kg. I am now really trained and fit but i want to go the extra mile. I did some anavar /winstrol for 6 weeks but in really low dosages, like 10mg winstrol and 10mg anavar a day to help me with the diet. I was a soccer player, and always used to do sports, i got fat, but i got fat because of alcohol, never really got fat to a point i started having a really bad body. My body fat is about 15% now, and i look really good but i want to go for a six pack. I train at least 4 times a week, i do a lot of cardio, and i eat really well, avoiding carbs and eating healthy. So human grade it is. Although pip from testoviron is really bad, but i heard this is because my muscles are virgin, i will run it and post some results.

Any additional help is welcome.!

[johnny698]

Week 1-2 250mg/week of sust
Week 3-8 500mg/week sust
Week 9-10 250mg/week
Week 6-7 win 36mg/week
Week 7-9 48mg/week
Week 10 36mg/week
200lbs, 20% bf
Wanna know what I should do for maximum gains and tips, also I am looking to leanout moire and hcg is my pct would also like to add my diet is going to be very strict lots of chicken breast rice egg whites brown rice and protein shakes

[stpete]

Week 1-2 250mg/week of sust
Week 3-8 500mg/week sust
Week 9-10 250mg/week
Week 6-7 win 36mg/week
Week 7-9 48mg/week
Week 10 36mg/week
200lbs, 20% bf
Wanna know what I should do for maximum gains and tips, also I am looking to leanout moire and hcg is my pct would also like to add my diet is going to be very strict lots of chicken breast rice egg whites brown rice and protein shakes

Start your own thread.

[stpete]

It would be best to just stick w/the test. Go to the Nutrition Section to get advice on your current diet.

[sedde]

It would be best to just stick w/the test. Go to the Nutrition Section to get advice on your current diet.

That was going to me pete ?

[sedde]

Oh i will be doing 80mcg of clenbuterol 2 days in, 2 days out.

[sedde]

Turns out i can buy Deca -Duraboline or by another name Extrabolin in the pharmacies too. This is crazy, should i swap tren for nandrolone ?
I am going for a lean cycle with minimal gains.

[stpete]

That was going to me pete ?

It was. What is your cycle history?

[sedde]

I wrote everything, 1st cycle, but did some winstrol and some anavar a month ago.
Did about 6 weeks of anavar ( 10mgs/d ) and winstrol ( 10mgs/d ) and clen 0.08mg 2 days in 2 days out.

[DeadlyD]

TEST ONLY, for your first cycle, what do have lined up fir PCT?

[sedde]

Why test only? I will be getting a proviron everyday and continue for couple of weeks after last pin.

[AD]

Why test only?

its safer to start simple.