First Cycle DBol Need MASSIVE help

[j4k3tyler]

Hey I'm new to the community recently turned 18 and I'm starting a dbol only cycle. I don't know whether that will be sufficient to make a clean 20 lb gain. My diet intake 3250 cal a day. Protein bars, chicken, pasta, etc. Will a dbol only cycle be enough or should I run it with test at 500 mg a week for 10 weeks and dbol at 30 mg a day for weeks 1 to 4. Also how do I keep from getting gyno and bloat. Should I take nolva while on cycle or afterward for 4 weeks at 100/50/50/50? Any help is great. Detail appreciated.

Weight: 155
Height: 6'0

Thanks,
Tyler

[havehotasianwife]

I often wonder if mods or vets make these new accounts to weed out the people that give bad advice? If not. There are some truly dumb people out there that want to never be able to have quality sex again in there life...

[dumb_aas]

Please for Christ's sake would people do a real research no and then! Dbol only will fvck you up! Actually anything WILL fvck you up at 18. You need to wait a few years and let your body mature right now you don't even need steroids to reach your goals i guarantee it. If you want advice bro head to the nutrition side and before long you'll make massive gains

[j4k3tyler]

If dbol will f me up then will test f me up as well. I want to cycle and have some quick gains. Summer is coming up soon.

[songdog]

I will put this in Laymans terms for you! All aas will harm you it can do serious damage to your endo.Even a lil test cycle so do you understand now???

[slfmade]

Read this link...Educate yourself before you do something to Fvck yourself up for life.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T2pvwhEgfVU

[fontazya]

no go learn to train and eat properly that will give you ur best gains

[boxin23]

dont end up like my friend who first cycled in high school and by the end of his college football career had permanent limp d!ck.

hes jacked for life. way too young bro.

[testfeind123]

Lmao dbol and test isn't even anything close to resembling a summer beach body cycle

[boxin23]

Lmao dbol and test isn't even anything close to resembling a summer beach body cycle

You don't know what you are talking about. You can cut on test if you want.....it is done all the time. It is your diet/workout that is going to constitute cut vs. bulk.

[gixxerboy1]

like everyone said at your age anything will mess you up. At 6ft and 150 you need to learn how to eat to grow. Taking anything will not help with out the right diet. You can grow alot naturally if you learned how to eat

[V-ROID]

I wonder if dbolonly.com is already taken? Could get a lot of traffic...

[dumb_aas]

I wonder if dbolonly.com is already taken? Could get a lot of traffic...

I wonder if all the oral only questions have to do with that "free bottle for signing" site saying Dbol is a great oral only cyle

[slfmade]

I wonder if dbolonly.com is already taken? Could get a lot of traffic...

Nope...you can get it for 9.99 at Godaddy. Maybe I could so some affiliate marketing for our board sponser. LOL

[John Andrew]

Why not just tell the truth, I am 18, don't care how much I wreck my body, I will not work but wanna look like Arnold. Please help me die young!

[hankdiesel]

Why not just tell the truth, I am 18, don't care how much I wreck my body, I will not work but wanna look like Arnold. Please help me die young!

alright alright.....he won't DIE if he takes dbol. He is looking for a quick fix though and he will not find one in dbol or any other substance. He's a tall skinny kid who's got to start putting in the work in BOTH the gym and the kitchen.

[leather daddy]

lol 155 pounds

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[V-ROID]

Might be worth it just to refer the masses of the same unbelievable troll-like but totally serious posters... It would be sorta like a sticky (which usually gets ignored) just more specific. Oralonly.com sounds better but I ain't checking on that one.

[ironbeck]

I feel your anxiety bro, but unfortunately there is no magic pill for permanent body development, take it from someone who has been pumping Iron for 22yrs. You really are young, u may just be a late bloomer, change your diet and give it a little time, a couple of years.

[marcus300]

Taking dbol/aas at your age will and can cause your problems in areas you wished you never had. Trust me you need to start eating correctly and if you do this will be far better than any cycle at this stage....

[doogy86]

I think you are making a huge mistake taking AAS at that age. I'm only 26 but took my first cycle at 17. I started with Dbol loved it next it was Sust250 and test. It was great while I was on it p***y flocked to me at the beach. Then I moved off to college and had no more juice. Severe Depression set in and I completely ignored the finest gym I had ever had access to at that point b/c I thought there was no point in working out without juice. I ended up in worse shape than when I started AAS. Short term at a young age steroid look very enticing but there are consequences. I didn't do sufficient research and never used PCT with a cycle which could have helped but not enough. I was not ready mentally for AAS something that many young kids don't think about. Oh yeah, my dick doesn't work like it used to which is probably what is driving your decision to take AAS at such a young age. Take it and prepare for early limp dick.

Edit: when I first posted this I forgot to metion that I had completely abstained for alcohol for about a year while focusing on my body. Once the depression from AAS set in I also began to use alcohol again heavily. I believe my stupid choice to start AAS so young contributed greatly to a self destructive lifestyle that was hard to break. If you don't listen to anyone's advice and still do your cycle do not use and illegal substances or alcohol had young friends who died from doing this.

[testfeind123]

You don't know what you are talking about. You can cut on test if you want.....it is done all the time. It is your diet/workout that is going to constitute cut vs. bulk.

OP didn't say test only a-hole.. He wanted dbol on the front end.dbol is definitely not for cutting

[havehotasianwife]

@testfeind123

Im not saying this to be a jerk or anything.. but name calling like this to @boxin23 or anyone else for that matter isn't tolerated. there are policys in place for flaming no matter what direction it goes. and eventually the person flaming doesnt win and are banned. when you feel the need to use a swears or anything derogitory, just swallow your pride and don't use the word. and again, welcome, i do again that its not the "standard" "summer cycle" being that it doesnt have winny in there as most "summer cut cycles" are concerned.

[testfeind123]

@testfeind123

Im not saying this to be a jerk or anything.. but name calling like this to @boxin23 or anyone else for that matter isn't tolerated. there are policys in place for flaming no matter what direction it goes. and eventually the person flaming doesnt win and are banned. when you feel the need to use a swears or anything derogitory, just swallow your pride and don't use the word. and again, welcome, i do again that its not the "standard" "summer cycle" being that it doesnt have winny in there as most "summer cut cycles" are concerned.

Oh come on the dude insulted my intelligence so i called him an "a-hole".."derogatory--tending to lessen the merit or reputation of a person or thing" i feel i had the right to call him an a-hole because he was being "derogatroy" towards me..It wasnt meant to be very hostile jus keep him in check cuz i know what im talkin bout.. Im by no means an aas expert but ihave done my fair share of research..He wanted to act like a jerk for no reason.. Can yu honestly say yu wud run dbol an test to try and look ripped for the summer.come on now and on top of that OPs original plan was to go dbol ONLY.. I'd abso-f*cking-lutely love to see what kind of summer body someone can achieve on dbol alone.

[havehotasianwife]

just sayin' both people keep it civil. we're all here to stay. you never know who will give you great advice a year down the road.

in regards to the question about "would I run a test and dbol cycle for a summer cut"

Depends,, if the person doing the cycle and ate crap the entire time just for the sake of getting correct number of calories in. then NO because the diet isnt dialed in then it would be a bad idea to run that as a cutting cycle.

but, and this is a big but, if the persons diet was very very clean and perfectly dialed in, i can honestly say that, although not ideal, you can use it as a cutting cycle.

alot of people will use test e/c or similar long ester aas during a caloric defecit to help maintain the amount of lean body mass while they are cutting. again i say not ideal,, but not wrong.

now onto the question of running dbol only. i think it would be a waste of money and not dont in a safe manner as i believe test should be the basis of all novice/intermediate cycles.

thats just my opinion.

[havehotasianwife]

I will also say that OP in general shouldnt be using AAS at all

[testfeind123]

I will also say that OP in general shouldnt be using AAS at all

Agreed

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Oh come on the dude insulted my intelligence so i called him an "a-hole".."derogatory--tending to lessen the merit or reputation of a person or thing" i feel i had the right to call him an a-hole because he was being "derogatroy" towards me..It wasnt meant to be very hostile jus keep him in check cuz i know what im talkin bout.. Im by no means an aas expert but ihave done my fair share of research..He wanted to act like a jerk for no reason.. Can yu honestly say yu wud run dbol an test to try and look ripped for the summer.come on now and on top of that OPs original plan was to go dbol ONLY.. I'd abso-f*cking-lutely love to see what kind of summer body someone can achieve on dbol alone.

some people like to jump in and use strong words for more dramatic effects. but others who are more gentlemanly like HaveHot, they talk with sense and reason.

no need to get mad. there are all sorts of characters in this forum, just like in the real world. you can choose, to be cool like HaveHot, or be mad, like others.

[boxin23]

OP didn't say test only a-hole.. He wanted dbol on the front end.dbol is definitely not for cutting

Hey mister 26 year old experienced vet.....you can give me any AAS and i can cut or gain depending on what i do with my diet. This shit with you calling me names does not bother me at all, but your comment screams of your experience, which sounds like very little.....

I doubt you have even ran a decent cut cycle and don't have any idea what it is really like. You probably read a lot though.

Parrot. Nice way to spout off rook.

[havehotasianwife]

some people like to jump in and use strong words for more dramatic effects. but others who are more gentlemanly like HaveHot, they talk with sense and reason.

no need to get mad. there are all sorts of characters in this forum, just like in the real world. you can choose, to be cool like HaveHot, or be mad, like others.

in the past, i have found that i was the person to get upset easily, but at the end of the day, i found that no matter how much i name called or got angry,, the outcome of my day wasnt improved one bit because of how i reacted. so i changed my personality. lifes too short to get angry easily. save it for those forced reps in the gym

[testfeind123]

Hey mister 26 year old experienced vet.....you can give me any AAS and i can cut or gain depending on what i do with my diet. This shit with you calling me names does not bother me at all, but your comment screams of your experience, which sounds like very little.....

I doubt you have even ran a decent cut cycle and don't have any idea what it is really like. You probably read a lot though.

Parrot. Nice way to spout off rook.

Well I did just say I am NOT an aas expert..well then how about yu run that dbol only cycle..why don't yu run a log on it while yur at it and let's see how yu do in a caloric deficit have fun broski!

[havehotasianwife]

Hey mister 26 year old experienced vet.....you can give me any AAS and i can cut or gain depending on what i do with my diet. This shit with you calling me names does not bother me at all, but your comment screams of your experience, which sounds like very little.....

I doubt you have even ran a decent cut cycle and don't have any idea what it is really like. You probably read a lot though.

Parrot. Nice way to spout off rook.

def all in the diet buddy, i agree 1000% percent. proper diet and nutrition can mimick anabolic results! again the person wont surpass their genetics.. but at the same time, with the dedication and knowledge learned through proper dieting, they will have gained all the info they need to know as a precursor to starting novice cycles.

[testfeind123]

def all in the diet buddy, i agree 1000% percent. proper diet and nutrition can mimick anabolic results! again the person wont surpass their genetics.. but at the same time, with the dedication and knowledge learned through proper dieting, they will have gained all the info they need to know as a precursor to starting novice cycles.

Yus tool my first post way too literally.. Diet is obviously número UNO not arguing that.. WhAt i said is pretty much like sayin "you can't run in timberlands" yu can run in timberlands but why wud yu wen yu would run faster in sneakers.

[havehotasianwife]

Yus tool my first post way too literally.. Diet is obviously número UNO not arguing that.. WhAt i said is pretty much like sayin "you can't run in timberlands" yu can run in timberlands but why wud yu wen yu would run faster in sneakers.

ok sounds good, enjoy your quick gain and your even quicker losses... and when your balls shrink and wont rebound because you start a cycle too soon after the first one. dont come crying back to the forum so we can help.. because we told you so.... maybe join amway while your at it,,,, get rich quick...promise

[testfeind123]

ok sounds good, enjoy your quick gain and your even quicker losses... and when your balls shrink and wont rebound because you start a cycle too soon after the first one. dont come crying back to the forum so we can help.. because we told you so.... maybe join amway while your at it,,,, get rich quick...promise

Why are people on this sight so damn sensitive..jeeze. Next cycle is planned for january. Im sure thats plenty of time off.I've ran one cycle of test kep almost all my of my gains and my balls work just fine.nice and plump. Don't worry I won't ask for yur help brah considering youve done 3 cycles and are at 162lbs 15%bf? All of this because I said "a-hole"?.. At Least I was polite enough to keep it censored

[havehotasianwife]

Why are people on this sight so damn sensitive..jeeze. Next cycle is planned for january. Im sure thats plenty of time off.I've ran one cycle of test kep almost all my of my gains and my balls work just fine.nice and plump. Don't worry I won't ask for yur help brah considering youve done 3 cycles and are at 162lbs 15%bf? All of this because I said "a-hole"?.. At Least I was polite enough to keep it censored

My Lack of experience with AAS is surpassed with my ability to listen and read, most of all, the ability to understand when I am wrong,, and others (not just me) say you are wrong in what you are trying to do. DONE.

[adamjames]

I will also say that OP in general shouldnt be using AAS at all

im with have a hot asian wife

Dbol alone is a no no, if you didnt allready know that you shouldnt be doing steroids yet

[testfeind123]

im with have a hot asian wife

Dbol alone is a no no, if you didnt allready know that you shouldnt be doing steroids yet

I was being sarcastic towards boxin wen I suggested that

[testfeind123]

My Lack of experience with AAS is surpassed with my ability to listen and read, most of all, the ability to understand when I am wrong,, and others (not just me) say you are wrong in what you are trying to do. DONE.

Idk what yu think I am trying to do..I'll admit that my original comment wasn't 100% true but in the world of AAS it's an accepted norm to use dbol for bulking not to try and achieve a dry ripped look