trying to explain why you need pct to a friend

[Boxtrot]

Have a friend that is 22 previously did a 10 week cycle of sus with no pct.

This is what he says happened "i went from 75kg to 90kg in 10 weeks on 1ml per week. you get a high sex drive and you get angry if you dont go to gym so just go and take your agression out that way".

He plans to get 3 10ml vials of sus. It was difficult to find out his thinking why he needed 3 vials. I believe he just thinks thats going to be plenty, or something.

He's coming over tomorrow and i wanna try and explain to him why a dosing plan is important. And why pct is necessary.

Can anyone think of some good points to make to him put in stern words to scare him into doing things the correct way?. He seems fine after the first cycle and said he had no sides but im worried he's gonna damage himself this time.

I have my PCT ready and waiting but i dont think i have enough to share it with him and he plans to cycle in the next couple weeks i imagine if i told him he would need to wait 3 weeks to do it and would have to add the PCT afer the cycle that he would probably be against it cause he thinks he's invincible.

[The Titan99]

Fvck him. He sounds like an idiot and nothing you do or say will be listened to. He'll end up like 90% of his kind as a poster child for the douche bag politician's trying to get elected by scaring the vast majority of uninformed morons in America or where ever you are. This jerk off is why AAS has be illegal...

[Zackery]

Well, his ignorance will damage him. Badly. If he thinks he can just go along and keep cycling without any precautions (or proper research) then he is destined to fail anyway. 15kg in 10 weeks is quite impressive. But the day will come where he goes off his cycling and without a PCT and then he's gonna fall hard. He might seem fine, but no one really knows what going on in his system.

Besides, some one that has anger issues while on a cycle should seriously consider that fact before going on.

[AD]

you can quote him the sticky by pinnacle under the pct forum. its very clear and well explained

[The Titan99]

Try to get him to read this thread. Might save his balls.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.T3BK09mNncs

[marcus300]

Tell him to join this site and make a thread detailing what he plans on doing and we will try to guide him in the right direction, weather he listens or not is his choice but from the sounds of it he wont.

[The Titan99]

Try to get him to read this thread. Might save his balls.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.T3BK09mNncs

There it is. In Marcus's sig. The young and steroids.

[Boxtrot]

He wont come here and join. He wont see the importance of it. Ill invite him over and get him to read that thread. And ill link him on facebook just incase he does.

One thing i didnt mention is he is a really aggressive person since i've know him post cycle. He punches people out whenever he gets the chance. I thought he would be less aggressive post cycle if anything given his natural test would have to recover on its own. However i just read this in marcus' thread "The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA".

Zackery: your right. No one does, thats the scary part.

Marcus: I will try to force feed him as much information as i can over the next few weeks. The least i believe i can do is help him to do it as safely as possible.

[The Titan99]

He wont come here and join. He wont see the importance of it. Ill invite him over and get him to read that thread. And ill link him on facebook just incase he does.

One thing i didnt mention is he is a really aggressive person since i've know him post cycle. He punches people out whenever he gets the chance. I thought he would be less aggressive post cycle if anything given his natural test would have to recover on its own. However i just read this in marcus' thread "The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA".

Zackery: your right. No one does, thats the scary part.

Marcus: I will try to force feed him as much information as i can over the next few weeks. The least i believe i can do is help him to do it as safely as possible.

What a fvcking Butt-Plug!! Like I said, a poster child for the ignorant zealots shouting from the roof tops about the evils of AAS. Little do they know this guy is an idiot anyway. If I were you I wouldn't get within a mile of this loser. He's going to jail if he's lucky, the hospital or the morgue if he's not. He ought to give that punching everyone out b*llsh*t a go where I come from. The situation would resolve itself immediately!!!

[Boxtrot]

What a fvcking Butt-Plug!! Like I said, a poster child for the ignorant zealots shouting from the roof tops about the evils of AAS. Little do they know this guy is an idiot anyway. If I were you I wouldn't get within a mile of this loser. He's going to jail if he's lucky, the hospital or the morgue if he's not. He ought to give that punching everyone out b*llsh*t a go where I come from. The situation would resolve itself immediately!!!

Agreed.

[kelkel]

When his anger issues land him in jail, he'll be much smaller.

[Zackery]

Tell him the "ass hole joke"... That might sink in.

This is your ass hole: .

This is your ass hole in prison: O

[Razor]

So many poor guys put there that just don't know or given bad advice..I always said a friend that doesn't tell u about pct is not ur friend..I have talked to countless guys at my gym..they seen me go from 160 to 195 and always have to tell them about pct and AI...they just want to juice it up and forget about the rest...

[Boxtrot]

So many poor guys put there that just don't know or given bad advice..I always said a friend that doesn't tell u about pct is not ur friend..I have talked to countless guys at my gym..they seen me go from 160 to 195 and always have to tell them about pct and AI...they just want to juice it up and forget about the rest...

lol zackery he thinks hes way to tuff to ever go to jail

razr i have to admit not many people in Aus have ever heard of pct and some think its even wrong to do it.

I asked my tattooist what cycle he did he said he did deca and after i told him about pct he said he went to the doctor and mentioned it to him and the doc said it would be wrong to be putting estrogen in your body and that its illogical. At the time i couldn't explain why it was logical but mind you this guy was 21 also and is planning another deca cycle which i advised him on dosing to stop him from doing a 16 week cycle of which he figured he had enough deca for so thats what he 'thought' he should do.

[Boxtrot]

It should be harder to get steroids in Aus...

[The Titan99]

lol zackery he thinks hes way to tuff to ever go to jail

razr i have to admit not many people in Aus have ever heard of pct and some think its even wrong to do it.

I asked my tattooist what cycle he did he said he did deca and after i told him about pct he said he went to the doctor and mentioned it to him and the doc said it would be wrong to be putting estrogen in your body and that its illogical. At the time i couldn't explain why it was logical but mind you this guy was 21 also and is planning another deca cycle which i advised him on dosing to stop him from doing a 16 week cycle of which he figured he had enough deca for so thats what he 'thought' he should do.

What kind of PCT are you doing that requires you to put estrogen in your body?

[blksavage]

lol, titan I dont think I ever heard of a pct like that have you?

[The Titan99]

lol zackery he thinks hes way to tuff to ever go to jail

razr i have to admit not many people in Aus have ever heard of pct and some think its even wrong to do it.

I asked my tattooist what cycle he did he said he did deca and after i told him about pct he said he went to the doctor and mentioned it to him and the doc said it would be wrong to be putting estrogen in your body and that its illogical. At the time i couldn't explain why it was logical but mind you this guy was 21 also and is planning another deca cycle which i advised him on dosing to stop him from doing a 16 week cycle of which he figured he had enough deca for so thats what he 'thought' he should do.

No wonder the poor bastards don't want to do PCT!! LMFAO!!!

[Razor]

lol zackery he thinks hes way to tuff to ever go to jail

razr i have to admit not many people in Aus have ever heard of pct and some think its even wrong to do it.

I asked my tattooist what cycle he did he said he did deca and after i told him about pct he said he went to the doctor and mentioned it to him and the doc said it would be wrong to be putting estrogen in your body and that its illogical. At the time i couldn't explain why it was logical but mind you this guy was 21 also and is planning another deca cycle which i advised him on dosing to stop him from doing a 16 week cycle of which he figured he had enough deca for so thats what he 'thought' he should do.

Its not about putting estrogen in your system with pct..its about restoring the natrual balance of the hormones...tell him a 16 week cycle of is 10000000 times more stupid than running a proper pct.

[Boxtrot]

oops anti estro lol

[Razor]

oops anti estro lol

Lol anti estrogens are that...anti..

[The Titan99]

oops anti estro lol

Still don't quite got it. PCT drugs aren't anti estrogens. They're selective estrogen receptor modulators. Think of it like this. Instead of killing all the people at the bus stop, it just fills up the seats so they can't get a ride...the people being the estrogen.

[Razor]

Still don't quite got it. PCT drugs aren't anti estrogens. They're selective estrogen receptor modulators. Think of it like this. Instead of killing all the people at the bus stop, it just fills up the seats so they can't get a ride...

That's the best analogy I ever heard..haha

[The Titan99]

That's the best analogy I ever heard..haha

Yea, thanks. That's how it was explained to me.

[< <Samson> >]

I have a friend who finally admitted to using while he was under 20. He said he got huge, he did no PCT no anything.

Now, he looks like he is 35+ . . . . . He is 28. . . He has zero mass, everything is gone. There are other causes to this, but just saying.


People do some dumn shit.


I also had a few guys tell me just to shoot straight test and not worry about anything. Yeah, sure thing. . . . . . . . I research shit before I put a needle in my body.