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    Question about PIP--- Please help!

    Hello All,

    as you can see, this is my first post. I've been lurking these forums for a while, gathering as much information as possible in order to start my first cycle in the most efficient way possible, but I might have run into some problems with the pinning aspect of it-- any and all help is greatly appreciated!
    Here's a quick runthrough of my stats:

    Age 23
    Height 5'11
    Weight 178
    Years training: on and off for two years, recently gotten more serious
    BF- 13-15% (BF machine at the gym told me 12.8%, but i know how off those can be)
    Diet: at least 5-6 meals a day, 200g of protein, 200g of carbs, 40-50 grams of fat

    Cycle:
    I wanted to go light and nothing crazy, this is what i thought of:

    week 1-10: Test e pinned at 300mg e4d (600mg/wk)
    pinning sites: left and right glute (butt dimple)

    week 4-12:Winstrol tabs: 50mg ed

    for PCT i have a shitton of Nolva on hand, enough to last me over a month.


    Back to the matter at hand....
    today marks the beginning of my second week, and I'm ****ing petrified of pinning my left glute again, as this week has been HELL on me having to get up and sit down all the time hurt like a bitch! it's been a week and the swelling still hasn't gone completely down. i'd say about >20% of the swelling remains.... what do i do? I'm not concerned about the authenticity of the gear, as I went through a great deal of trouble to find pharmaceutical grade stuff.

    I think i might be doing something wrong when it comes to the actual pinning. I'm using 25g needles
    -sterilize the vial
    -pressurize the vial by putting air into it
    -draw the oil (this takes me forever to do)
    -sterilize the injection site
    -relax my muscle, pin
    -slooooowly inject the 1.25ccs (takes like 30 seconds)
    -leave the needle in for 10 seconds to allow time for the medication to spread
    -massage the area


    here's what i havent tried:
    -heating up the gear
    -showering afterwards


    The question remains however--- Do I pin my left glute again even though it's still a littttleeee sore? I know it was virgin muscle before but idk what to do!

    Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks!

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    well a few things. You gear is not human pharmaceutical grade if its 300mg/ml
    You want to take it light so you are running 600mg a week instead of the recommended 500 and stacking with winny. I wouldn't say that's going light.
    Where is your ai?
    7 weeks of winny?
    you will need alteast a month of nolva for pct and what about the clomid to go with it?
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    I actually recently ordered some Adex just in case, but i was told i might not need it.
    as for it not human pharma grade, 300mg is just the amount im injecting per pin. It's aussie pharm grade, that i know for a fact.
    Sorry for the confusion, I'm running 8 weeks of winnie (which im considering saving for another cycle later on)
    and I have like a month and a halfs worth of nolva. I don't have clomid, do you think it's a must?

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    you need to use the adex. i would start at .25mg eod
    yes i would use clomid also.
    you have enough nolva for a month at what dose?
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    i've got a shitton of 25mg caps of nolva.
    i was gonna do 50/25/25/25

    any tips on what to do about the PiP? should i pin my left glute again even though its a little sore?

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    i would rotate around more
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorrechild View Post
    i've got a shitton of 25mg caps of nolva.
    i was gonna do 50/25/25/25

    any tips on what to do about the PiP? should i pin my left glute again even though its a little sore?
    i wouldent...whats a matter with the right glute?...

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    the right glute is still sore from my thursday pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorrechild View Post
    the right glute is still sore from my thursday pin.
    then you have to hit a quad or delt bro cus pinning an already sore muscle will cause more pain and disscomfort obviously but its up to you really....

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    what would you recommend out of those two? quads or delts? which one seems to give less discomfort throughout the day? they're both gonna be virgin muscles at this point so im ****ed either way in terms of pain, but idc. I appreciate all the advice btw guys, helps out alot.

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    its up to you man as its going to hurt eather way but i find quads to be the easyest cus they are right in front of you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    its up to you man as its going to hurt eather way but i find quads to be the easyest cus they are right in front of you....
    I'll try my quads tonight, will be posting here to let you guys know how it goes. Thanks alot for the advice! greatly appreciated.

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