Test E + Dbol First Cycle

[Farid]

Hey guys so I did alot of research and im going to go ahead and start my cycle first with Test E + D bol, Amiridex during and Nolvadex for pcT.. Will probably do 500mg per week with Test E, how much should I do for D bol since its my first cycle? and Amiridex..

Stats :

Age :21, going on 22 in september
Train : 4-5 times a week -start off with 10 min cardio, then 2 muscle (core)/ finish with abs
I have a strict diet and never miss my workouts, always give me 110%
My main goals are to bulk to around 160-170lbs ish while remaining '' shredded''

Diet :
Meal 1 - 2-3Eggs/Oatmeal/potatoes
Meal 2- Protein Shake (weight Gainer)
Meal 3 - Chicken/Pasta/Rice/Veggies/potatoes
Meal 4 - Protein Shake(whey)
Meal 5 - fish/chicken/Veggies/potatoes
Meal 6 - Protein Shake (weight Gainer)
Meal 7 - Pure Cottage cheese before going to sleep

Height : about 5'5-5'6 (been this height since around 17-18
Weight: 145lbs ish
Body fat : 10%
I dont smoke(since 19) or drink alcohol at all


THanks!

[Farid]

please someone? :l just advice on taking dbol , how many weeks how much mg etc... thanks

[dumb_aas]

21 or 22 is still a bit young, you should seriously consider waiting until you're 25. It sucked but I waited it out. I'm 25 and second week of my first cycle. In good conscience I can't give any advice on the dbol and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but if you have made up your mind and refuse to wait it out please consider adding clomid to your pct. Run clomid and nolva together since they go real well together

[mrzedx]

145LBS? LOL seriously dude go back and take a look at your diet and go natural till your at least 180lbs+

[mrzedx]

btw mate your too young! youll shut yourself down and when u go in the bedroom.... good luck im sure girls would love underperforming guys that cant get it up..

[songdog]

You are to young you risk doing serious damage to your endo system.Hit the diet section they can help.

[cebby1985]

As said you're too young. Learn how to eat first. Learn to hit your calorie intake for appropriate goals by hitting your nacronutrients. It's not about the food you eat, but the calories, carbs, fats and proteins that make up the food you eat

[adamjames]

you may aswell go natural up to at least 160 ibs, you can achieve that in 6 months - 10 months easy peasy by sorting that diet out

[hankdiesel]

I don't think your diet is bad at all. What do you guys want from him? He you read it or is it just that he is 145lbs? I read the diet and then saw your just 145lbs. Even at your height that is light. How long have you been eating like that? How long have you been training?

[600@50]

Farid you do not have to cycle AAS to make progress. I know you have heard that you are too young and that is the truth. You will damage your body by using AAS at your age. You have plenty of time to research and do it right in a few years. Like everyone has said spend some time in the nutrition and workout sections. Learn to eat and train correctly. I even recommend you spend some time in the HRT section to see what some others are going through because of trying AAS at a young age. Educate yourself and you will way ahead in a few years.

[cebby1985]

I don't think his diet is bad at all, but I was trying to point out that its not the food you eat, its the nutritional.value of the food. It does like he lacks fats and depending on portion sizes, he nay bot be getting ckose to the calories or protein needed to gain weight.

I know op is looking to get bigger, but I hear so often " I eat so clean but don't lose weight". Well until you're monitoring and weiguing out food going in your mouth, you really are giving a lot of lee way as far as caloruc intake. Eat all tge clean food you want, but if you're eating at or above maintenance, you'll gain weight, eat less it at maintenance and you'll stay the same or lose weight

[John Andrew]

Mate, Please do yourself a favor, Train another 6 years before you think of using. diet and training alone can get you up to 200lbs! Don't wreck your life!

[phoenix44]

Well let me start off by saying you could easily put on 15lbs naturally by tweaking the diet. You have the hardest part down and that is eating right.

Are you a little young, yes. If you take something responsibly and cycle through, are you going to hurt yourself , maybe. Are you doing better than most people who decide to juice, by far.

I know 100 people who started their cycles at your age and only one of them is on HRT and that's because he stayed on for years straight at a gram+ a week.

30 mg dbol is enough your first cycle to show great gains.

But I really think you need to add some calories into your diet and give it another 6 months or your just short changing yourself.

[Farid]

I don't think your diet is bad at all. What do you guys want from him? He you read it or is it just that he is 145lbs? I read the diet and then saw your just 145lbs. Even at your height that is light. How long have you been eating like that? How long have you been training?

I'm around 5'5 im short.. I been training since I was around 18, I eat til I almost puke.. and my plateau is 145 lbs.. If i stop weight gainers for a week I lose like 5 lbs.. I have always been an ectomorph

[phoenix44]

I'm around 5'5 im short.. I been training since I was around 18, I eat til I almost puke.. and my plateau is 145 lbs.. If i stop weight gainers for a week I lose like 5 lbs.. I have always been an ectomorph

Keep a log of your diet with exact macro's for the week

[adamjames]

I'm around 5'5 im short.. I been training since I was around 18, I eat til I almost puke.. and my plateau is 145 lbs.. If i stop weight gainers for a week I lose like 5 lbs.. I have always been an ectomorph

If you have plateaud at 145 ibs your diet will need changing simple as that, if its to hard for you to eat so much food theres only 1 option= drink it, grind up oats and use them as your carb source drop the weightgainers, the main ingredient in weightgainers is dextrose because its cheap, it will spike insulin which makes you store fat and will digest too fast for someone with your metabolism, that 5 ibs you lose when you stop weightgainer is water and fat, im ecto aswell, carbs are the main obstacle for you. i wouldnt be where i am without my oat grinder

[AD]

if you got to eat till you puke just to maintain this weight, maybe you should get some basic bloodwork done first, just to make sure you don't have diabetes or hyperthyroidism or some other hormone deficiency. just a thought.

and maybe forget the whey and just stick to weight gainer blended with full cream milk

[adamjames]

if you got to eat till you puke just to maintain this weight, maybe you should get some basic bloodwork done first, just to make sure you don't have diabetes or hyperthyroidism or some other hormone deficiency. just a thought.

and maybe forget the whey and just stick to weight gainer blended with full cream milk

Its beyond me why anyone with any kind of experience would recommend someone to use weightgainers with full cream milk lol

did you forget to mention that you were joking

[Honkey_Kong]

I'm around 5'5 im short.. I been training since I was around 18, I eat til I almost puke.. and my plateau is 145 lbs.. If i stop weight gainers for a week I lose like 5 lbs.. I have always been an ectomorph

I was a hardgainer too for a long time until I trained myself how to eat. You're drinking way too many shakes. If I drank that many, I'd puke every day. Those shakes aren't really meal repla***ents, your body still needs real food. Do you grill ever? or have a rotissary? I'm telling you some chicken breast (with the fvcking skin), steak, tuna or salmon steaks on the grill or roasted to perfection is some good eating. What kind of potatoes do you eat? Baked?

Trust me on this, you know that "set it and forget it" rotissary? it's worth the price of it.