Avanar(Oxandrolone) w/ Clebunterol

**soccerplayer** · 03-29-2012, 08:55 AM

Would it make sense to make a cycle of oxandrolone w/ Clenbuterol to get a little bit of mass?

Thank you

**DamageDealer** · 03-29-2012, 09:08 AM

anavar is a cutting steroid , and muscle gains from it are measly. also, clenbuterol does not increase muscle mass at all. you have got some research to do before making posts like that. also, give use your stats: age, weight, height, bf%

**minitourwvu** · 03-29-2012, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by DamageDealer

anavar is a cutting steroid, and muscle gains from it are measly. also, clenbuterol does not increase muscle mass at all. you have got some research to do before making posts like that. also, give use your stats: age, weight, height, bf%

There is no such a thing as a cutting or bulking steroid , its the diet and training that you do while you are.on it that will provide the results you are after.

**DamageDealer** · 03-29-2012, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by minitourwvu

There is no such a thing as a cutting or bulking steroid, its the diet and training that you do while you are.on it that will provide the results you are after.

95% of people i know use anavar for cutting cycles, therefore it's a cutting steroid . op wants to gain muscle with it, which won't happen

**Jerseystepup** · 03-29-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by minitourwvu

There is no such a thing as a cutting or bulking steroid, its the diet and training that you do while you are.on it that will provide the results you are after.

Spot on right there... i cut with anadrol ... no such thing as cutting or bulking compounds... Clenbuterol also DOES HAVE anabolic AND anti-catabolic properties to it...

So to the OP's question, YES it is possible to make an increase in LBM while taking both compounds together... Again, Diet plays a major role in this..

**t-dogg** · 03-29-2012, 10:42 AM

There is a thread I just bumped not to bit ago for people to read. It was on anavar . Everything was logged with a doctor, bloodwork, ect. He gained 19lbs and lost 1-2% bf.

**t-dogg** · 03-29-2012, 10:49 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-interested%29

**cebby1985** · 03-29-2012, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by DamageDealer

95% of people i know use anavar for cutting cycles, therefore it's a cutting steroid. op wants to gain muscle with it, which won't happen

95% of ignorant ppl that I know who refuse to inject test think that running dianabol and winstrol (both oral mind you) is a good choice because you'll get big and cut at the same time. There's actually pop that I know who told me they drink less water on a dbol only cycle because it'll mean they won't retain as much water.

Diet is everything. All compounds used are called aas for a reason.

**soccerplayer** · 03-29-2012, 12:12 PM

I'm sorry guys. I never have done any cycle before and I'm doing some research that's why I'm posting my doubts here. I can't gain too much mass. Probably 10 pounds the most. I play soccer, but I need to bigger a little bit and I might be drafted after my senior year and the scout told me that I need to get bigger because nobody would choose with my status now.

20 years old
1,79cm - 5'9
178lbs

Don't you think clenbuterol and anavar would work for me?

**cebby1985** · 03-29-2012, 12:22 PM

Not tour fault man. Sometimes ppl give out incorrect advice and the thread went a little stray

If you're looking to put on some mass, cut the clen . Clen is used during a calorie deficit to help burn extra calories/fat. It also may interfere w your cardio and breathing.

More importantly, you're still young. Stay away from the testosterone and ither aas. If toured a soccer player, you're very active and require a ton of calories to maintain your current bodyweight, let alone grow. Spend sone time brushing up on your diet, calorie needs and macros.

**Jerseystepup** · 03-29-2012, 02:17 PM

What supplements do you currently take? Creatine is known to work wonders for endurance athletes.. might be something you wanna look into?

**MACKATTACK** · 03-29-2012, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by soccerplayer

I'm sorry guys. I never have done any cycle before and I'm doing some research that's why I'm posting my doubts here. I can't gain too much mass. Probably 10 pounds the most. I play soccer, but I need to bigger a little bit and I might be drafted after my senior year and the scout told me that I need to get bigger because nobody would choose with my status now.

20 years old
1,79cm - 5'9
178lbs

Don't you think clenbuterol and anavar would work for me?

Use the CLEN in PCT which will help to create an anti catabolic effect and cut any gained water mass which should be minimal. Anavar will give you a nice 10-15lbs of lean mass with the right diet and workout routine. Minimum 8 week cycle and recommended dosage for a first timer would be about 50mg's a day. Throw in a little cardio with everything and it will give you what you are looking for.

**soccerplayer** · 03-29-2012, 03:04 PM

Creatine is not allowed on NCAA Division I and it's really easy to get detected. Anyways, thank you

**soccerplayer** · 03-29-2012, 03:06 PM

Macattack,

what you mean by use the CLEN in PCT ? I was planning to do on 8 week cycle which would be 2 months. I run approximately 6/7 miles every monday wednesday and friday.. tuesdays and thursdays I do some fitness tests.. like 2 miles under 12 min something like that so cardio would not be a problem.. do you think it would help me?

**TFf** · 03-29-2012, 03:18 PM

Wait. I'm confused. You would be concerned with getting busted for taking creatine, but not concerned with getting busted for useing anabolic androgenic steroids ?

**MACKATTACK** · 03-29-2012, 04:02 PM

PCT = POST CYCLE TREATMENT............which is needed with all steroid cycles. Whats your diet and lifting routine? Post it up. What are your stats? Seems like you need to do more reading and research.

Originally Posted by soccerplayer

Macattack,

what you mean by use the CLEN in PCT ? I was planning to do on 8 week cycle which would be 2 months. I run approximately 6/7 miles every monday wednesday and friday.. tuesdays and thursdays I do some fitness tests.. like 2 miles under 12 min something like that so cardio would not be a problem.. do you think it would help me?

**soccerplayer** · 03-29-2012, 04:48 PM

why are you confused? clenbuterol is detected no longer than 5 days and oxandrolone no longer than 3 weeks.

That's what I thought and that's why I'm on this forum, so I could listen to people like you macattack. What's the differente by taking oxandrolone and clenbuterol at the same time than taking oxandrolone for 2 months and then do clenbuterol on PCT?

My diet is pretty light, it's just based on carbo and protein.. I lift every monday wednesday and friday with running.. tuesday and thursdays I just run..

**cebby1985** · 03-29-2012, 08:19 PM

I don't understand why you're wanting to run clen while bulking? Also, the effects of clen on tour heart rate and breathing will more than likely interfere w your sport.

**rawpower** · 03-29-2012, 08:32 PM

idk if taking clen with high intensity training would be smart for your health man. Even when i take clen an go for jogs i have to rly monitor my heart rate bc you can begin to feel awful on it