Looking for an affordable option..

**BrysZ** · 03-30-2012, 08:29 AM

Being on TRT at 150 mg/wk I occaisionally boost to 400-500 for 12-14 weeks during the winter. I get nice gain but of course water retention and bloat. I am looking for an affordable option this spring to supplement my TRT with the goal of gaining definiton with mimimal lean muscle gain...also something to counteract my summer diet indescretions. My bf% is debatable (see below) maybe 12-15% so I am not far from my goal...I have looked at many options and the cost is always the limiting factor, unfortutnately.

My research included GHRP-2 with CJC-1295 (no DAC) 100mcg each 3x/day, Winstrol Injections 50mg/day, Winstrol Tabs 50mg/day, and Anavar Tabs 50 mg/day. The cheapest option being Winstrol Tabs...most expensive is the GHRP-2/CJC1295 option followed by Anavar Tabs and then Winstrol Injections

I guess I am wondering if I should be looking for another substance or combination or even running only one substance. Again I hate to admit it but budget and prices will dictate my decison and I might just have to use an ECA stack or even some T3...anybody got any advise for me?

Thank you!

**gixxerboy1** · 03-30-2012, 08:31 AM

please edit your post. listing prices is against the rules

**BrysZ** · 03-30-2012, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

please edit your post. listing prices is against the rules

no problem..thx

**GettinSwole66** · 03-30-2012, 09:31 AM

Hey gix, not tryin to ruffle any feathers but what does listing prices have to do with anything? I also dont remember seeing anything about that in the rules. (I'll look again though) I only recall it discussing sources, links and asking questions about where to get products.

I mean, does it matter if you tell me last week you got your gear and paid X amount and I come back to say, well dam I paid Y amount which was more. Man you got lucky! ??? We've said nothing about WHERE we got them or HOW to get them. So I dont see how that has anything to do with the price of apples in china and how it can cause controversy on the board...

Again, just a simple question. Not tryin to piss anyone off!

**GettinSwole66** · 03-30-2012, 09:43 AM

Found it, "There is to be no price discussions"...I guess that could be trouble depending on what is said and how the person is discussing the situation. Too easy!

**songdog** · 03-30-2012, 09:53 AM

I want to see a pic of wat you call single digit bf plz post up.

**BrysZ** · 03-30-2012, 10:10 AM

From Spring Break...about three weeks ago...

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I guess its a matter of opinion... I am merely trying to quantify my current state.

**JDBeretta** · 03-30-2012, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by BrysZ

From Spring Break...about three weeks ago...

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I guess its a matter of opinion... I am merely trying to quantify my current state.

That's 15%+. Still look good though. Try waxing

**BrysZ** · 03-30-2012, 10:17 AM

yikes I guess I better find that writeup on approximating bf%...sorry guys...i guess wishful thinking...my bad.

thanks for props though...no waxing for me haha...at 46 y/o i really dont care

**phoenix44** · 03-30-2012, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by JDBeretta

That's 15%+. Still look good though. Try waxing

Dude that's not 15% Def 12 or under

**JDBeretta** · 03-30-2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by phoenix44

Dude that's not 15% Def 12 or under

Firstly, I wasn't saying that he doesn't look great. I personally like a solid look like that (no homo).

I was basing that comment on the thought that I'm 13-15% and have less fat on me than him.

Just my opinion.

**BrysZ** · 03-30-2012, 01:34 PM

okay i appreciate the critque...and im not being a smart ass...but i seen this bf thing go back and forth for days...does anyone have any advice for me regarding my primary question?

Thanks

**JDBeretta** · 03-30-2012, 01:40 PM

Maybe have a look at the profile of Equipoise .

I'm not sure it's affordable, but that depends on what you consider 'affordable'.

**BrysZ** · 03-30-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by JDBeretta

Maybe have a look at the profile of Equipoise .

I'm not sure it's affordable, but that depends on what you consider 'affordable'.

Interesting, concerns over the propensity to raise red blood cell levels more then test, extreme hunger would hamper any cutting progress I also fear, biggest problem I have no currently available source for that substance....thank you all the same.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 03-30-2012, 02:54 PM

Equipoise ? There's nothing about EQ that fits the criteria of your goals.

Var or winny is what I'd go with, if money is a big concern go with winny.

**JDBeretta** · 03-30-2012, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

Equipoise ? There's nothing about EQ that fits the criteria of your goals.

Var or winny is what I'd go with, if money is a big concern go with winny.

I agree, I was just thinking that since he exhausted those 2 options. Eq is known to produce that quality muscle look without making you too huge.

**jpbbpro** · 03-30-2012, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

Equipoise ? There's nothing about EQ that fits the criteria of your goals.

Var or winny is what I'd go with, if money is a big concern go with winny.

I would lean toward a conservative dose of Winstrol , say 25 mg/day to lower SHBG and run test and an ai to further lower estrogen and it's undesirable consequences

**BrysZ** · 03-31-2012, 06:06 AM

This Winstrol sounds reasonable...after my next blood work I could also increase my test with the whinny...currently 150mg/week...I could bump that and add 25 mg of Whinny...I was hoping to avoid orals anyway and I have never seen Anavar in an injectible.

So this should 'help' me get cut and remain cut throughout the summer? Of course I need to stay on top of the diet and exercise. Without water retnetionand bloat?

**BrysZ** · 03-31-2012, 06:14 AM

If I were to take Whinstrol Tabs which is the cheapest option should 25mg still suffice? Is that low of dose any real concern for liver damage?

**Sgt. Hartman** · 03-31-2012, 06:39 AM

I wouldn't run it less than 50mg per day.

And it wont cause any water retention or bloat - it'll dry you out and give you a hard look if you're lean enough.

**BrysZ** · 03-31-2012, 11:38 AM

Ok 50mg/day...should I blast a little extra test or just keep the trt as is?

**BrysZ** · 03-31-2012, 03:28 PM

bump

**freshmaker** · 03-31-2012, 04:03 PM

Do you get water retention on the 150? I'm on 150 and I seem to be really bloating up.

Originally Posted by BrysZ

Being on TRT at 150 mg/wk I occaisionally boost to 400-500 for 12-14 weeks during the winter. I get nice gain but of course water retention and bloat. I am looking for an affordable option this spring to supplement my TRT with the goal of gaining definiton with mimimal lean muscle gain...also something to counteract my summer diet indescretions. My bf% is debatable (see below) maybe 12-15% so I am not far from my goal...I have looked at many options and the cost is always the limiting factor, unfortutnately.

My research included GHRP-2 with CJC-1295 (no DAC) 100mcg each 3x/day, Winstrol Injections 50mg/day, Winstrol Tabs 50mg/day, and Anavar Tabs 50 mg/day. The cheapest option being Winstrol Tabs...most expensive is the GHRP-2/CJC1295 option followed by Anavar Tabs and then Winstrol Injections

I guess I am wondering if I should be looking for another substance or combination or even running only one substance. Again I hate to admit it but budget and prices will dictate my decison and I might just have to use an ECA stack or even some T3...anybody got any advise for me?

Thank you!