Advice needed on gauge sizes.

**srt4wad** · 03-30-2012, 09:20 AM

Ok, am going to get some HCG and think that the 19g 1/2in should be fine I will also purchase a 5ml vial for mixing and some 30ml bacteriostatic water For the test should I go with 23 or 25 i understand that the larger the gauge the smaller the needle. Is 1.5in long enough for glute or thigh injection? From what I understad I don't need to go all the way or does it depend of home much fat and what not you have before you hit muscle.

Another question I am not sure if I should start a new post or not but, should I inject say monday 6am and then Thur 6am when doing test e 250mg 2x week. Should HCG be injected the same day ha test.

Thanks
Wad

5'11
190
12-15%bf
30yrs old
Training 3 years 3 days a week 5 days when cutting (tue and thur was cardio)

**alexISthrowed** · 03-30-2012, 09:22 AM

I use 25g 1" pins for everything. If your a little fatter 1.5" might be a good option.

**sirupate** · 03-30-2012, 09:30 AM

The hCG can be injected sub-Q into your belly with an insulin pin...29 or 30ga. There is not a need that I am aware of to go IM with hCG.

**GettinSwole66** · 03-30-2012, 09:34 AM

Im with alex, I use 25g 1" for every site I use. Nice and smooth on inject. Just make sure you get at least 23g for drawing the gear, then swap out pins for inject. Too easy!

**kelkel** · 03-30-2012, 10:09 AM

I use a 31ga insulin pin for hcg . Couple inches from the belly button. No need for IM with hcg. I use 25ga 1" for all else. Moving to 27ga soon.

**srt4wad** · 03-30-2012, 10:10 AM

Ok, now this may sound stupid but could I just buy say a box of 23g needle and syrige combo and then buy just the 25 gauge needle pk and when I have drawn my stuff take the 23 off and put a 25 on. Or should I buy combo box of each.

And sorry in advance if this was a stupid question was jut about to make my order and thought when by two combos if i can just order neeedles and use the same syringe.

And thanks again for the help.

**kelkel** · 03-30-2012, 10:18 AM

Depends on where your ordering from. I'd drop down to an 18 ga for loading. Even easier.

**alexISthrowed** · 03-30-2012, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by srt4wad

Ok, now this may sound stupid but could I just buy say a box of 23g needle and syrige combo and then buy just the 25 gauge needle pk and when I have drawn my stuff take the 23 off and put a 25 on. Or should I buy combo box of each.

And sorry in advance if this was a stupid question was jut about to make my order and thought when by two combos if i can just order neeedles and use the same syringe.

And thanks again for the help.

Thats what I do. I get 3ml syringes with 20g 1.5" pins and separate 25 g pins. I draw with the 20 and then swap them out.

**wesholcomb80** · 03-30-2012, 10:25 AM

I always load with a 18 gauge and pin with a 25g 1 inch, I've never had a problem hitting muscle in the glute or quad.

**jpbbpro** · 03-30-2012, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by wesholcomb80

I always load with a 18 gauge and pin with a 25g 1 inch, I've never had a problem hitting muscle in the glute or quad.

I'd tend to agree, although self injecting the glutes becomes increasingly harder as you get bigger lol

**wesholcomb80** · 03-30-2012, 10:52 AM

I would just rather bury a 1 inch all the way in rather than guess how far to push a inch and a half pin in.

**srt4wad** · 03-30-2012, 11:47 AM

Thanks for all the help, just ordered water for HCG , 29g for HCG, 3cc 20g combo for draw and 25g pins for inject. One step closer to first cycle. Man, I am really nervous to be honest its not the inject part that is the issue its the "don't know" what might happen thats getting me kind of nervous.

I had a buddy the other day tell me "Man i had it ready in the syringe and couldn't do it" he squirted it into the toliet.

**kelkel** · 03-30-2012, 02:06 PM

Just make sure you have everything you need for your cycle and pct before you even start....

**srt4wad** · 03-30-2012, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Just make sure you have everything you need for your cycle and pct before you even start....

I hear you bro, I have the AR-R version of Nolva, Clomid and Liquidex plus the install tools. Test is a phone call away and I don't want to make it until I have the HCG . Which I think I may have gotten screwed on since they have not responded to two e-mails asking for western union info. I am going to give that until monday or tues next week which also blows because I wanted to start the second week of April. But, the source I thought was good but I guess not if I decide to do this again I might find a better source I hope.

Thanks

**jpbbpro** · 03-30-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Just make sure you have everything you need for your cycle and pct before you even start....

Best advice you can receive regarding your cycle and future cycle(s)

**< <Samson> >** · 03-30-2012, 03:03 PM

As far as needles, I am running a 18ga to draw and 23ga x1" to inject. Feels just fine, tried to use the 23 to draw and it was near impossible.

**pregan** · 03-30-2012, 03:31 PM

I use a 29ga for hcg . For test 18 to draw and 23 to inject. Was injecting with the 18 for a while until i found I could use 23.

**600@50** · 03-30-2012, 03:40 PM

You can use an 18ga to draw or it'll just take longer drawing with your pin. I use a 1 1/2" 22ga to draw and pin. It takes maybe a minute per cc to draw my test e. You can always warm the vial to thin the oil somewhat if you want.

**< <Samson> >** · 03-30-2012, 04:29 PM

Sorry, HCG I have no idea. It just depends on the liquid type. The oil is pretty thick in my test.

**darkcrayz** · 03-31-2012, 01:12 AM

use a 23 gauge to draw and a 25 to inject.

isnt hcg water based? if so you would use an insulin needle. 28-31 gauge.

**xun_18** · 03-31-2012, 03:26 PM

ive always use 23 g for drawing the gear and 25g 1 inch for everything the only time i use 23g 1inch is only if i have to do 2 ml and i only use it i my glute