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    Stack em ? or Just use one ?

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    So i have 2 vials of Test E and one bottle of EQ Gain. should i use both or just use the EQ Gain first then move onto the TEST E after (first timer here)
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    First time ever oj cycle? Use just the test. Never used eq, but hear mixed reviews on this board about it. Have anything else lined up fir your cycle? Pct or Ai?

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    first cycle ever. 250mg/week of test E (suggested by friend) glute injection.
    5000 cal's/day
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    How old are u???

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    250mgs a week? Lol

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    25 yrs old

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    500mgs a week first cycle. Get some clomid aswell

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    go read the rules please. you cant have lab names etc in a pics

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    oh oops

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    go read the rules please. you cant have lab names etc in a pics
    Sorry bro, i edited and put a new one up but dont know how to get rid of the other one =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    go read the rules please. you cant have lab names etc in a pics
    Sorry bro, i edited and put a new one up but dont know how to get rid of the other one =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    go read the rules please. you cant have lab names etc in a pics
    sorry bro, i edited the pic and put a new one up, i cant figure out how to get rid of the old one

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    I've done about 3 cycles thus far to date and I'd suggest no less than a minimum of 400 mg/week and no more than a maximum of 500 mg/week of enth as your first cycle, save the eq

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpbbpro View Post
    I've done about 3 cycles thus far to date and I'd suggest no less than a minimum of 400 mg/week and no more than a maximum of 500 mg/week of enth as your first cycle, save the eq
    so 400mg = 1.6 ml

    So basically looking at a 6 week cycel ?

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    Yes but I'd recommend two shots per week for e or c, due to the half lives (blood concentration falls after 4-5 days depending on which you use) so that's two 0.8 cc injections for enth, but you could do 1 cc twice a week and still be fine as 500 mg isn't going overboard even as a first cycle

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    a 1000 mg/2weeks ? sounds like alot

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    so this much ?

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    Yes, 1 cc twice a week. 1000 mg/2 weeks is not the way to gauge usage, otherwise 2000 mg a month sounds like a lot. Weekly dosages are used for a reason.

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    i suppose breaking it up would work to, 250mg on monday 250 mg on thursday, repeat the following week, do this for 6 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpbbpro View Post
    Yes, 1 cc twice a week. 1000 mg/2 weeks is not the way to gauge usage, otherwise 2000 mg a month sounds like a lot. Weekly dosages are used for a reason.
    hey bro thanks for helping me out here, im pretty good at math but when it comes to this i dont want to f*&k it up, know what i mean ? so by doing 1 cc twice a week that basically is 250 mg twice a week which equals 500mg/week, okay i think i got it, and you sure its only goona last me like 6 weeks then ill need to get more ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devestating

    hey bro thanks for helping me out here, im pretty good at math but when it comes to this i dont want to f*&k it up, know what i mean ? so by doing 1 cc twice a week that basically is 250 mg twice a week which equals 500mg/week, okay i think i got it, and you sure its only goona last me like 6 weeks then ill need to get more ?
    Np man, always glad to help out and offer whatever advice I can. And yup, you got t, 500 mg/week will produce excellent results for a first cycle. The vial should last ya 5 weeks, at 2 cc per week from a 10 cc vial

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpbbpro View Post
    Np man, always glad to help out and offer whatever advice I can. And yup, you got t, 500 mg/week will produce excellent results for a first cycle. The vial should last ya 5 weeks, at 2 cc per week from a 10 cc vial
    and so what about the equipoise ? i have it, may as well use it but to what degree, when and how ? ive read the research forum, 500mg/week as well but i just dont have that much to last me

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    I would save the eq for the next cycle or a future one, but that is up to you. EQ Can be run at 400 mg/week successfully. Its use depends on your goal. If your aiming to diet, I wouldn't run it as it greatly increases my appetite

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    no dieting here, just weight and mass gaining will the test e not make me hungry as well ? considering ill be burning a ton of calories ?

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    It will yes, but eq is notorious for this increase in appetite and I can vouche for this. You can throw it in if u would like but I'd save it because the first cycle is to see how well u respond to test only, ie no other compounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpbbpro View Post
    It will yes, but eq is notorious for this increase in appetite and I can vouche for this. You can throw it in if u would like but I'd save it because the first cycle is to see how well u respond to test only, ie no other compounds
    Far enough bro, thanks again for all oyur help

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    Quote Originally Posted by devestating View Post
    i suppose breaking it up would work to, 250mg on monday 250 mg on thursday, repeat the following week, do this for 6 weeks
    NO this would be reasonably pointless, the test E will onyl kick in after 4 weeks, you need to be taking it for 12 weeks, then make sure you have a full PCT lined up of clomid and nolvadex and have an AI on hand during your cycle

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    yea i agree. if ir not running it for at least 12 weeks its pointless. 6 weeks will do nada for u. i think ur just ovr thinking the situation. split ur pins 2x wk. usually mon/thurs.

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    Agreed. Less than 12 weeks will illicit little to no gains. 12 week duration is a minimum for long esters.

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    so i need 4 10ml bottles for 12 weeks then...???

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    You need 3 vials:
    2 cc's per week X 12 weeks = 24 cc's required, you will have 6 cc's left over

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