Sustonon and Tren

**baddude** · 03-30-2012, 12:10 PM

I am 20 years old, 5'8", 185 lbs. ive been working out off and on since i was 14 and consistently for about 3 years. i dont have high body fat but enough that you cant see my six pack.
i go to the gym at least 3 days a week and do boxing 4-5 days a week.

i am looking to get on a cycle of either tren and sust, or just sust alone.
i have takin an anavar only cycle before for 8 weeks just for a small boost and started an omnadren and winstrl cycle but i was on it for 2 weeks and when i went to get more to continue my cycle my source was done selling so i was forced to stop the cycle.

i was considering either taking 1 shot of each every 5 days, or 1 shot monday and 1 shot thursday.

Ive read that beginners should start off with just a testosterone to see how it effects them, i mean i was on it for 2 weeks with the winstrol , i know thats nothing but i felt fine at the time.

what should i do? and how long should i do it?

**DamageDealer** · 03-30-2012, 12:36 PM

everything you've done so far was beyond retarded. sorry bro. i mean, a 2 week cycle? is this real life?

you're 20 years old, and you've already tried var and omnadren ? have you lost your mind? stop taking steroids , especially something as dangerous as tren , and forget about AAS until you are 24 or 25 years old. you will fvcking kill your endocrine system with tren. just do some goddamn research to learn about the dangers of steroids at such young age

**binsser** · 03-30-2012, 12:40 PM

wait at least 5 years bud with a crap load of eggs and proper hard training your body will build like fck anyway you def dont even need ass yet!

**baddude** · 03-30-2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by DamageDealer

everything you've done so far was beyond retarded. sorry bro. i mean, a 2 week cycle? is this real life?

you're 20 years old, and you've already tried var and omnadren? have you lost your mind? stop taking steroids, especially something as dangerous as tren, and forget about AAS until you are 24 or 25 years old. you will fvcking kill your endocrine system with tren. just do some goddamn research to learn about the dangers of steroids at such young age

you obviosly didnt read the post. if i was askin what was dangerous id be talkin to a dr you **** tard. and i didnt plan on a 2 week cycle my source stopped selling when i went to get more so i was FORCED to stop. and im looking for what people have to say dumbass so i AM doing research lol you sound ****in dumb

**DamageDealer** · 03-30-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by baddude

you obviosly didnt read the post. if i was askin what was dangerous id be talkin to a dr you **** tard. and i didnt plan on a 2 week cycle my source stopped selling when i went to get more so i was FORCED to stop. and im looking for what people have to say dumbass so i AM doing research lol you sound ****in dumb

you have to have all your gear laid out in front of you BEFORE you start a cycle. any other way is utterly stupid. oh, and nobody is going to help you or advise you any AAS on this forum since you're a 20 year old kid. and stop lying, you didn't research anything, because if you did, you would not be cycling steroids at your age. if you don't listen to this and go ahead with using tren , i wish all the best fvcking luck to your dick

**baddude** · 03-30-2012, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by DamageDealer

you have to have all your gear laid out in front of you BEFORE you start a cycle. any other way is utterly stupid. oh, and nobody is going to help you or advise you any AAS on this forum since you're a 20 year old kid. and stop lying, you didn't research anything, because if you did, you would not be cycling steroids at your age. if you don't listen to this and go ahead with using tren, i wish all the best fvcking luck to your dick

ok thanks for the advise buddy. im definitly not considering tren anymore. and like i said im RESEARCHING i never said i RESEARCHED. once again you didnt read it right.

but, since like most 20 year old males im stupid and dont care, say i decide to go ahead and take sustanon 250, how should i go about doing that?

and thanks for thinkin about my dick.....lol

**DamageDealer** · 03-30-2012, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by baddude

ok thanks for the advise buddy. im definitly not considering tren anymore. and like i said im RESEARCHING i never said i RESEARCHED. once again you didnt read it right.

but, since like most 20 year old males im stupid and dont care, say i decide to go ahead and take sustanon 250, how should i go about doing that?

and thanks for thinkin about my dick.....lol

it's not only about your dick, it's your whole endocrine system. taking ANY steroid at this age is likely to have consequences such as low or no test, low libido, limp dick, tiredness and depression. and i can assure you, you WILL care later but it might be too late

**baddude** · 03-30-2012, 01:15 PM

ok thank you....but didnt arnold start taking steroids at 15? and didnt he just cheat on his wife? that must be hard to do with low or no test, limp dick, tiredness and depression

**baddude** · 03-30-2012, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by DamageDealer

it's not only about your dick, it's your whole endocrine system. taking ANY steroid at this age is likely to have consequences such as low or no test, low libido, limp dick, tiredness and depression. and i can assure you, you WILL care later but it might be too late

ok thank you....but didnt arnold start taking steroids at 15? and didnt he just cheat on his wife? that must be hard to do with low or no test , limp dick, tiredness and depression

**gixxerboy1** · 03-30-2012, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by baddude

ok thank you....but didnt arnold start taking steroids at 15? and didnt he just cheat on his wife? that must be hard to do with low or no test , limp dick, tiredness and depression

i'm pretty sure he is on hormone repla***ent therapy for ever.

**songdog** · 03-30-2012, 04:38 PM

And Arnold paid a lot of money to get to that point.And he got lucky.Anymore idols?

**ghettoboyd** · 03-30-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by baddude

ok thank you....but didnt arnold start taking steroids at 15? and didnt he just cheat on his wife? that must be hard to do with low or no test , limp dick, tiredness and depression

im so tired of hearing this lame ass way of young kids justifying a poor decision...its your body do what you want but just realize the are people here with real word experiance/knowledge whome are advising you for free using there own time...no one with a conciance is going to answere your hypothetical what if question because we know your going to do the shit anyways and who wants to be responsible for that...every answer you are looking for is all here in countless threads, have at it and learn all you want no one is stopping you but no one is going to spoon feed you the info, sorry...

**loki_is_a_god** · 03-30-2012, 07:09 PM

That would be an amazing cycle when you turn 25......well till then creatine, eating like a monster and lifting like it is going out of style

**NotConvincedYet** · 03-30-2012, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

im so tired of hearing this lame ass way of young kids justifying a poor decision...its your body do what you want but just realize the are people here with real word experiance/knowledge whome are advising you for free using there own time...no one with a conciance is going to answere your hypothetical what if question because we know your going to do the shit anyways and who wants to be responsible for that...every answer you are looking for is all here in countless threads, have at it and learn all you want no one is stopping you but no one is going to spoon feed you the info, sorry...

This sums many many many threads up! Unfortunately the ignorance of many will blind the actual depth of this comment.

**smallnutz** · 03-31-2012, 12:11 AM

Baddude your 20 yrs old talking shit to guys that care and are telling u that u r too young and can do permanent damage. And for u to relate urself to Arnold is Hillarious and then thinking that he jus stopped taking test and still gets his **** on is also Hillarious . If u don't think he is taking test the rest of his life Ur crazy, due to the side effects of using aas young and for 2 long. At 20 i hate to say. No actually i love to tell u your being ****ing lazy man up on your diet and training and you'll c great results your looking for easy fix and at 20 u don't even deserve to run a cycle or smart enough( badass) plus I'd be one of those douche bags thinking your a (badass) cause Ur on a cycle. Like they said if u didn't have your whole cycle ready and your pct ready then u shudnt have started.

**Stosh_112** · 03-31-2012, 04:07 AM

If u already have the gear, it should still be good in a few yrs when its ur time to start. I know ur gonna do what u want and if anything dont do the tren !