In all seriousness

[Changes]

A friend gave me a bottle of Nutrex 1-tu (expired 2006)... Is it safe to still use it? He claims it is?

Also...

If it is safe, can I take just one pill a day before working out, combined with Pharmafreak Test Freak?


Possible dangers?

Thanks!

[Bonaparte]

The age of the PH isn't a safety issue. It probably just lost some potency.
BTW, do you actually understand what this stuff is?

[Changes]

Please inform me of all you can offer. I'd love me of an insight. Thanks in advance, and you ROCK!

[songdog]

Omg !!

[Changes]

Why OMG? I legitimately asked him to share his knowledge, I may not know all that he does...?

I know my basics, but perhaps he has insight I do not. Can't learn if you don't ask

[Changes]

Why OMG? I legitimately asked him to share his knowledge, I may not know all that he does...?

I know my basics, but perhaps he has insight I do not. Can't learn if you don't ask

[lovbyts]

What are the basics you know? Do you know these are not steroids? Do you know or understand that some pro hormones have more or worse side effect than real steroids most often with little or now benefits or gains? Some are designer steroids or that is what they are called but either way it's not just a pill you can take and that is that. You need to know how much to take for how long and what sort of liver support to use. Also what type of PCT would be required and what the side effects might be.

It's something you need to put into google and read the first 100 post, every one of them not just from the sales department or some 17 yr old kid who has not clue. Search for the Negative results, not benefits so you know what to watch for. Those are the basics.

[Bonaparte]

Unfortunately, it is clear that you don't know the first thing about this oral steroid. Don't use it.

[Changes]

I know this much...

1-tu is a combination of a PH that bypasses the liver and is absorbed through the lymphatic part of the body, I know that it suggests taking it 3 times daily, I take it once daily, One pill with my 4 test freak pills (before working out)

I will admit, I am not that educated on either one, I was given both by a friend from the gym. This is why I came here to seek further information and help. Flame me for being a "moron" all you want, but it will never help the situation or educate me. I am pretty sure you have to crawl before you can walk, and walk before you can run (hypothetically speaking). So, here I am crawling as a man, asking like a b***h... Please help me! Inform me, Educate me, Help someone in need of help, and remember, there are more people afraid to ask for help then not. Also, there are more people using stuff without knowing the risks or wanting too. It should be apparent that not only do I want to lean, that I care about myself.

History - I used BPI AHD and solid for 4 weeks, then started Pharmafreak Test Freak as second cycle, about 3 weeks in (this s an overall 8 week cycle) then 4 weeks off totally. However, past two days in a row. I have taken one pill of 1-tu with test freak before working out to see if I felt any boosts (friend recommended). Placebo or not, I did feel stronger. However, I am not going to continue to take the 1-tu with test freak because it seems like a waste, in a week I would have to stop and that would cut the 1-tu cycle short significantly (esp since I am only taking one pill). I figure, finish this test freak, then off 4 weeks then start fresh with 1-tu. and pct with p6 or maybe Bulgarian trib

Keep in mind I would only do one pill (mainly for a edge, not for big gains)


Let the education and flaming begin.

[Honkey_Kong]

I know this much...

1-tu is a combination of a PH that bypasses the liver and is absorbed through the lymphatic part of the body, I know that it suggests taking it 3 times daily, I take it once daily, One pill with my 4 test freak pills (before working out)

I will admit, I am not that educated on either one, I was given both by a friend from the gym. This is why I came here to seek further information and help. Flame me for being a "moron" all you want, but it will never help the situation or educate me. I am pretty sure you have to crawl before you can walk, and walk before you can run (hypothetically speaking). So, here I am crawling as a man, asking like a b***h... Please help me! Inform me, Educate me, Help someone in need of help, and remember, there are more people afraid to ask for help then not. Also, there are more people using stuff without knowing the risks or wanting too. It should be apparent that not only do I want to lean, that I care about myself.

History - I used BPI AHD and solid for 4 weeks, then started Pharmafreak Test Freak as second cycle, about 3 weeks in (this s an overall 8 week cycle) then 4 weeks off totally. However, past two days in a row. I have taken one pill of 1-tu with test freak before working out to see if I felt any boosts (friend recommended). Placebo or not, I did feel stronger. However, I am not going to continue to take the 1-tu with test freak because it seems like a waste, in a week I would have to stop and that would cut the 1-tu cycle short significantly (esp since I am only taking one pill). I figure, finish this test freak, then off 4 weeks then start fresh with 1-tu. and pct with p6 or maybe Bulgarian trib

Keep in mind I would only do one pill (mainly for a edge, not for big gains)


Let the education and flaming begin.

That stuff is all garbage. And of course you'd feel stronger after that cycle, you were lifting weights for 8 weeks.

[Awesome_Archy]

I know this much...

1-tu is a combination of a PH that bypasses the liver and is absorbed through the lymphatic part of the body, I know that it suggests taking it 3 times daily, I take it once daily, One pill with my 4 test freak pills (before working out)

I will admit, I am not that educated on either one, I was given both by a friend from the gym. This is why I came here to seek further information and help. Flame me for being a "moron" all you want, but it will never help the situation or educate me. I am pretty sure you have to crawl before you can walk, and walk before you can run (hypothetically speaking). So, here I am crawling as a man, asking like a b***h... Please help me! Inform me, Educate me, Help someone in need of help, and remember, there are more people afraid to ask for help then not. Also, there are more people using stuff without knowing the risks or wanting too. It should be apparent that not only do I want to lean, that I care about myself.

History - I used BPI AHD and solid for 4 weeks, then started Pharmafreak Test Freak as second cycle, about 3 weeks in (this s an overall 8 week cycle) then 4 weeks off totally. However, past two days in a row. I have taken one pill of 1-tu with test freak before working out to see if I felt any boosts (friend recommended). Placebo or not, I did feel stronger. However, I am not going to continue to take the 1-tu with test freak because it seems like a waste, in a week I would have to stop and that would cut the 1-tu cycle short significantly (esp since I am only taking one pill). I figure, finish this test freak, then off 4 weeks then start fresh with 1-tu. and pct with p6 or maybe Bulgarian trib

Keep in mind I would only do one pill (mainly for a edge, not for big gains)


Let the education and flaming begin.

Stopped reading at bypasses the liver. complete nonsense

[Changes]

The best advice so far. Thanks!

What are the basics you know? Do you know these are not steroids? Do you know or understand that some pro hormones have more or worse side effect than real steroids most often with little or now benefits or gains? Some are designer steroids or that is what they are called but either way it's not just a pill you can take and that is that. You need to know how much to take for how long and what sort of liver support to use. Also what type of PCT would be required and what the side effects might be.

It's something you need to put into google and read the first 100 post, every one of them not just from the sales department or some 17 yr old kid who has not clue. Search for the Negative results, not benefits so you know what to watch for. Those are the basics.

[Bonaparte]

Stopped reading at bypasses the liver. complete nonsense

Actually, it isn't.
It is 1-Test (dihydroboldenone) bound to an undecanoate ester and dissolved in castor oil, just like Andriol. It is absorbed directly through the lymphatic system and thus avoids the first hepatic pass.

[Awesome_Archy]

Actually, it isn't.
It is 1-Test (dihydroboldenone) bound to an undecanoate ester and dissolved in castor oil, just like Andriol. It is absorbed directly through the lymphatic system and thus avoids the first hepatic pass.

hmm i need to do some reading on this then.

[Bonaparte]

hmm i need to do some reading on this then.

Well yeah, but the stuff has been banned for at least 5 years.

[Changes]

see... we aren't all as smart as we think we are. lol

hmm i need to do some reading on this then.

[Awesome_Archy]

see... we aren't all as smart as we think we are. lol

But most of us are smart enough to learn before we take anything.