Im am considering the substance........has anyone had sideeffects? How were your results.......stats pictures......help me out....thanks
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Im am considering the substance........has anyone had sideeffects? How were your results.......stats pictures......help me out....thanks
Clenbuterol handbook
CLENBUTERAL FAQ: EVERYTHING YOU
NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT CLENBUTEROL
by BigAndy69
What is Clenbuterol?
Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
hours and not 48 hours.
Dosing and Cycling
Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties
fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.
Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP
Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP
raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels
about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.
DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it
because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
half-life prevents it from being all that effective.
As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some
would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on
Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This
may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a
time.
Side effects
NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN
The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
increased blood pressure.
Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
minimizing cramps.
Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
signs of a headache.
Common Uses
Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.
Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g
per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.
Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be
used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.
Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA
stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To
take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be
included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.
Precautions: Is Clen for you?
The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although
some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked
with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations
are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.
A word on Ketotifen
Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down
regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks
at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be
adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
dieting.
Cycling Clenbuterol
Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
the first 3-4 days of use.
A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
until the side effects are not tolerable
Example of a first cycle:
Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack
Example of a second cycle:
Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack
What else do I need to know?
Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.
Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.
Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day
The shakes I get bad, usually I get a really bad headache my second day on it too.
Pain
Ive never heard about taurine and clen before. Does anyone do that?
I do. Haven't really noticed any benefits from taking it to not taking it.
Pain
teeth chattering, headaches, restlessness at night, hand shakes like crazy, jaw hurts when I chew food, grind my teeth, night sweats, you name it I got it with Clen, but man, the results I get post cycle, I think the sides are all worth it sometimes..
I am on Clen right now and the first couple of days I was getting cramps. I started taking Taurine along with potassium and I haven't had any problems now. For me it was worth it.
Jssmc
Where can i get Taurine?
Any health food store. I got mine at GNC. It was like 6 dollars for 50 500 mg pills.
Jssmc
what should i take with clen on my off daysQuote:
Originally posted by painintheazz
I do. Haven't really noticed any benefits from taking it to not taking it.
Pain
does this work
i need to know
I am not sure what you want to know man. Just stick to a good strict diet and throw in a good amount of cardio. Take the Taurine and Potassium to avoid cramps.
Jssmc
Ya, I am not sure what you are asking either. You take the Taur and Pot to aviod cramping up and also to help with the conversion of T4 to T3 (clen does something chemical and slows this process) I drink a ton of water so I don't really worry about the cramping and I take 2 multi vits a day so I think I am good because of that. That is why I don't notice any effects from taking extra of them. You might though, that is for you to see.Quote:
Originally posted by jssmc
I am not sure what you want to know man. Just stick to a good strict diet and throw in a good amount of cardio. Take the Taurine and Potassium to avoid cramps.
Jssmc
Pain
Good call Pain! I didn't mention the conversion. Thanks for backing me up.
Bro, you might not need the Taurine or Potassium but it can't hurt you so I take the extra pill of each. Good luck,
Jssmc
Is it ok to drink while on Clen. I just want to drink 1 night for my friends birthday...would that be ok?
I think the main problem you will encounter is dehydration. I dont think it will do anymore damage to your liver than just the alcohol alone would. Pick and choose bro. I wouldnt get too tanked. Everything in moderation. Have fun,
Jssmc
Well you should work up to a high dose but some shakes are normal for me. If you get them terribily, then you might want to step down one. Once you get used to that, move it back on up. I stepped it down 2 pills this week cuz 6 .02 was too much for me. Do what works for you.
Jssmc
Taurine is essential on Clen...most of the bad side effects are a result of depleted Taurine Levels in the body.
I would start taurine a few days before clen
Clen is a very harsh drug, it has some hidden side effects that are permanent.
I would advise you guys to leave the clen for post cycle use only.
'someone i know' took liquid clen while at university, and the side effects are nuts. I remember he couldnt sleep well, concentrate or write properly because he was shaking constantly. I advise you take it while on down time like over a vacation. I know he was bouncing at a bar and couldnt even hold an ID straight. Being that my friend doesnt drink or take other drugs, he would take it before going to a club and drink water all night while dancing. Be prepared to be edgy, and have plenty of energy to do cardio!
he took liquid clen an was hyper? thats odd considering most liquid clens have keto in them which makes almost everyone sleepy....
He might have used a clen pump (which is actually a gel and not a liquid) in which case he would have been bouncing off the cieling. There was also an injectable clen (waterbased) that was injected..again no ketotifen in that...no sleepiness. But yes, the liquid clen that have seen and used (with the eye dropper dispenser) does contain keto and makes you as sleepy as if you just busted one off.Quote:
Originally posted by jason864
he took liquid clen an was hyper? thats odd considering most liquid clens have keto in them which makes almost everyone sleepy....
Ur right! i was just assuming he was using liquid with keto just seems to be the most common
The clen was the biggest factor in my 80 lbs of weight lose. It is mostley the same side effects of any ECA stack. A good way to get the Taurine and some CReatine at the same time is Sobe Power. It seem to be the perfect combo with Clen as it contains Creatine, Taurine, and L-Proline. Good luck.
P.S. Don't take it too late at night. If you do, it is like trying to sleep while high, which is usually only a problem who cannot fall asleep like that. Good luch bro, I am about to go on another Clen Xanedrine cycle. Still natural otherwise.
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Originally posted by BigAndy69
Taurine is essential on Clen...most of the bad side effects are a result of depleted Taurine Levels in the body.
I would start taurine a few days before clen
Clen is a very harsh drug, it has some hidden side effects that are permanent.
I would advise you guys to leave the clen for post cycle use only.
what type of effects that are permanent?
bump.
on permanent side..
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bump for a good thread