tren e and test e chasing the same receptors?

[jimimac]

I have just finished a cycle ..running 2cc tren e and 2cc of test e both once a week, I decided to go to my local test clinic to get my levels checked. (1296) and im 40yrs old. The doc stated that this was not obnoxiously high but that the combination that im taking could actually be working against each other. he stated that they both "chase or seek out the same receptiors and could be canceling out each other" i wasnt really sure of the validity of this answer because he then informed me that comming to see him once a week for a test cyp shot (2-2.5 cc) would be a much more productive avenue to get to my goal of about 20 lbs of good solid muscle. so im not sure if its a sales pitch or legitimate advice. he also stated that the test cyp would not mess with my temperment as much. I have looked around in the forum to try and answer this on my own but to no avail. Maybe its right there infront of my face but I couldnt find it. Still a newbie so Im sure this has alot to do with it. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

[Capebuffalo]

What are the mgs per cc? My understanding is that they do compete for the same receptors. So with tren being more anabolic than test the tren is not able to work as efficiently. That is why some people run teir test lower than their tren. This is my understanding of it. But there are so many differing opinions. I can't call it fact.

[lovbyts]

There is no difference between Test E and Test C or at least nothing you will ever see or notice in any way. Running 1cc or 2cc is not telling us anything because there are many different strengths of test and tren.

Where did you find a doc who is cool with running aas? Are you in the UK? Your test levels are in the upper or just above to top normal range. This could be due to very under dosed gear or the tren was fake all together? It could also be your E2 was elevated making your test levels lower. You probably did not get your E2 tested?

[swm1972]

Tren wouldn't show up on a testosterone serum blood test. It's not testosterone so why would it? You should be approx double your test scores if you are running 400-500 mgs/week. I'd say your test is seriously underdosed. Your tren might be too if it is from the same lab.

[Bonaparte]

Like the guy above me said, your gear is just shitty.

Test and Tren do not "cancel each other out". And blood tests only read circulating hormone levels, which has nothing to do with receptors anyway.

[gonzo6183]

Tren wouldn't show up on a testosterone serum blood test. It's not testosterone so why would it? You should be approx double your test scores if you are running 400-500 mgs/week. I'd say your test is seriously underdosed. Your tren might be too if it is from the same lab.

This is a load of rubish... You test levels should be AT LEAST 4-5 times your normal levels eg I ran 600mg week and test levels came back at 218 when normal range is 10-35.

So your test is fake and who knows about your tren, that wont show up but if its from the same place well you can figure that one out

[jimimac]

thank you

[jimimac]

as much as it pisses me off you could be totally correct in saying that my gear could be shitty

[jimimac]

your correct and i guess thats why im a newbie...trusting the wrong person and getting shitty gear. lesson learned. guess im back on the hunt. thank you

[darkcrayz]

your correct and i guess thats why im a newbie...trusting the wrong person and getting shitty gear. lesson learned. guess im back on the hunt. thank you

that is why you gotta get blood tests done on cycle to make sure its legit.

[jimimac]

what exactly am i looking for in those blood tests? also can i pm you

[lovbyts]

You can not pm until you get at least 50 post. Go read the Confidential Blood testing section. You should find what you are looking for.

[darkcrayz]

You can not pm until you get at least 50 post. Go read the Confidential Blood testing section. You should find what you are looking for.

yes exactly.

i told my dr i was 'on'. he wasnt happy but he didnt fight me. i told him i wanted a test, free/bound, sbgh, estro in my blood panel. he obliged.

[lovbyts]

yes exactly.

i told my dr i was 'on'. he wasnt happy but he didnt fight me. i told him i wanted a test, free/bound, sbgh, estro in my blood panel. he obliged.

Hopefully you are not in the US because that would be a bad/dumb move. You may think it's confidential but the records are not nearly as confidential as you think or they use to be and I high doubts they will be confidential in the near future. You dont want it coming back to bite you in the ass later.

[jimimac]

thanks