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    deca and sastnon 1st cycle

    hi
    what u guys think of 1st circle u need 4 bottle of
    for the 1st bulking cycle
    i nevar been using anything before...just go on with normal weight gainer and normal whey protein and creatine
    one guy he told me to try sustanon + deca the pct
    and another one told me
    enananthe and sustanon and add dbol
    now i dont know what to choose and who to trust...? i wanna ask u guys
    please help me
    i wanna do bulking...just go for bulking something like (off sesson things)Click image for larger version. 

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    age is 23 years older
    Body fat is 20% i guess so
    high is 185

    i don't Eat Hard But i Eat Smart
    again i wanna go for bulking,bulking ...
    please show me what u got guys
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    23 is a little young to start.
    if you want to bulk it is more diet then chemicals. You need to eat for it.
    First cycle should be test only. you will gain plenty off of that if you eat correctly
    test e or sust it doesnt matter
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    you def dont want to do deca first cycle it can really mess you up bud and seen as it is your first youll be well happy with the results from test as said above test-e or c bulking test-p cutting or ripped look but well to young and youve already got what you need in your body at the moment bud diet diet diet diet!

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    so test is for bulking...as at the moment i am just looking for bulking, a good bulking...i respect yr advice my binsser but if i use the deca ...really what is gonna happened...just till me i wanted know

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetsnoopy99 View Post
    so test is for bulking...as at the moment i am just looking for bulking, a good bulking...i respect yr advice my binsser but if i use the deca...really what is gonna happened...just till me i wanted know
    if you get sides effects you wont know what is causing them as the is 2 unknown compounds in your body instead of 1

    have a look at their profiles in the section here for a full profile of all the compounds you mentioned along with their common side effects

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    i know everything has a side effect...but am new into this...and i need some bulking not too much ,i just need an extra 20 kg...of muscle which i gave up...i just need a good cycle that would give me good bulking and it wont really effect my body
    btw i really like the idea of the test.. am really happy for it..and am up to it..just want more view point...and this section the education one i have learned alot from it...yeah another thing aam haveing bad time in food as i am gonna be an xchange student for one year and they gonna send me to east asia...malaysia which i know i might have a problem with the diet and food...i heard those guys eat rice on breakfast,rice on lunch and rice on dinnar...so i need something that i would keep me good for the next 8 month
    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    if you get sides effects you wont know what is causing them as the is 2 unknown compounds in your body instead of 1

    have a look at their profiles in the section here for a full profile of all the compounds you mentioned along with their common side effects

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    Sust or test E will probably get ya about 10-15lbs realistically. Depending how dedicated u are to ur diet and workouts.

    i know ur a lil too young but ur gonna do what u wanna do, if u do decide to cycle, just stick with one or the other. No deca or oralls. Plan on a good pct also to get ur natty test back to normal after cycle.

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    so with whight is 84
    and body fat less than 17%
    workout everyday
    one day deadlefting and other day squat no matter what muscle am working on....
    eat 3 heavy meal per day and 2 sub meal
    what cycle do u recomand for me ?
    btw at the moment am into creatine monohydrate supplemant..
    btw after the cycle am i gonna lose the wight that i have gained... ?
    sorry for those questions am just new there..really new there...

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    so with whight is 84
    and body fat less than 17%
    workout everyday
    one day deadlefting and other day squat no matter what muscle am working on....
    eat 3 heavy meal per day and 2 sub meal
    what cycle do u recomand for me ?
    btw at the moment am into creatine monohydrate supplemant..
    btw after the cycle am i gonna lose the wight that i have gained... ?
    sorry for those questions am just new there..really new there...

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    You should NOT be doing any cycle.... Your training and diet need A LOT of work before you take that step, and yes you will loose all the weight when you finish if you have not trained yourself how to eat properly

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    What is the photo you posted?

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    yeah that is photo of me,no problem,for the trainning i am surei wont step off the gym any time soon, anf for the diet.am going on with good diet
    15%fat i guess it is good diet :-)
    am just wanna go for cycle to start a new level,so far i found some good advices from some members above
    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo6183 View Post
    What is the photo you posted?

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    Anyone else calling BS on the picture? Your stats and picture are not even close.

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    i didnt get it what do you mean :-)
    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Anyone else calling BS on the picture? Your stats and picture are not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Anyone else calling BS on the picture? Your stats and picture are not even close.
    Thats why I asked "whats the photo?"

    That doesnt match the original 6'2 80kg (target 100kg or +20)
    BF 20%
    Max Deadlift 100kg
    Max Bench 85kg
    Squat 110kg
    4 Meals a day (not eating hard but smart)

    BS on Photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo6183

    Thats why I asked "whats the photo?"

    That doesnt match the original 6'2 80kg (target 100kg or +20)
    BF 20%
    Max Deadlift 100kg
    Max Bench 85kg
    Squat 110kg
    4 Meals a day (not eating hard but smart)

    BS on Photo
    The guy in the photo looks like he warms up on those maxs ... Very light

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    Agreed, there's def something wrong if the guy in the photo max at 85kg. I'm callin bs

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesholcomb80 View Post
    Agreed, there's def something wrong if the guy in the photo max at 85kg. I'm callin bs
    ok guys i have removed the info so u guys will foucs more on answering my question and help with your view point ...

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    Those pics look a little like from an older member that used to frequent here. Can not remember his name, but yeah the pics don't add up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post
    Those pics look a little like from an older member that used to frequent here. Can not remember his name, but yeah the pics don't add up.
    huh huh? it is mine dude..
    u can add me 2 facebook if u dont believe me ...

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    We would like to help you but from experience there is no way that is you compared with your stats and lack of basic knowledge. That is the body of someone who has a very good diet, has a very good knowledge and workout history for several years. I still lift the weights you mentioned with 3 herniated disks and a bum shoulder I am having surgery on next week. Most of us here really do want to help you and others but most of us are suspect because of past users who are fake.

    No one is going to join facebook without knowing you. How about taking another picture holding up a paper with today's date and you are shirtless like in the other pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetsnoopy99 View Post
    ok guys i have removed the info so u guys will foucs more on answering my question and help with your view point ...
    Ok this is your info do to the risk of doing damage to your endo system.We dont give cycle advice to anyone under 25.

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