PLZ Help Just getting back to Normal

[Skywalker727]

Im 23 years old and have done 2 cycles in the past.. Used Arimidex and Nolva as PCT and it has been over a year since i have touched anything.

Problem is my Test levels Never bounced fully back. I have got Bloodwork and 6 months ago and 1 week ago it showed that i was on the lowest end of the normal range
basically really low but my doctor does not want to treat with testosterone . Also in the last 2 months i have experienced Gyno . lump and puffy nipples. AND ongoin problems
with Sex drive and Erections. Im miserable and need help. Im able to get my hands on whatever chemicals you guys would recommend.

Goal is to get natural Test levels High as possible, lower estrogen, and starting ****ing the shit out of the several girls that want me. PLEASE help..

And as an ending note let this be a lesson to any guys my age considering steriods that it has high risk involved and i wish i would have waited like this forum suggested to me 3 years ago.. without sounding cocky im a good looking guy in great shape, with more hott girls after me than i can handle. All to be humiliated by limp dick time after time..

I wanna stay off and just get healthy. And i appreciate any help you guys can offer. PS im aware of cialis and viagra and they do help but i dont wanna depend on them my whole life.

[gixxerboy1]

what were your cycles.
you can try another pct of nolva and clomid

[Skywalker727]

i ran test and dbol the first time and test and deca the second..

[gonzo6183]

Make this a sticky so we can reduce the number of threads in this section by about 50%, seems every kid out there just wants to hear of someone that did it and is fine.

Any of you want to end up like this?

Cheers for posting this info mate, hopefully it will deter a lot of young people from taking a step they are not ready for

A full PCT of could be a good idea:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Or triptorelin may be something you want to look into, varied results and opinions but its an option.

[nikalexopoulos]

Maybe even some HCG ? I sufferred from low test (not super low but on the botton end) and im only 18. Did 2 weeks of HCG, well and truly off it now and im sitting at the top end of the range now i had no previous cycle history of any sort. My test was suppressed from some nasty insomnia a while back.

[songdog]

Make this a sticky so we can reduce the number of threads in this section by about 50%, seems every kid out there just wants to hear of someone that did it and is fine.

Any of you want to end up like this?

Cheers for posting this info mate, hopefully it will deter a lot of young people from taking a step they are not ready for

A full PCT of could be a good idea:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Or triptorelin may be something you want to look into, varied results and opinions but its an option.

Dam kids cant listen wat makes you think can read.Oh better yet they are looking for the one person to say its ok Ok the tren is affecting me a lil

[Skywalker727]

i plan on gettin letro and nolva so far from the research im doing. But if anyone has any better suggestions please im all ears.

i did have a friend recommending a HCG cycle. what do you guys think??

[gixxerboy1]

letro isnt going to help you get back to normal

use clomid and nolva

[Skywalker727]

ty gixxer for the response but i read the Gyno post by Cbyno and is why i was thinkin letro..

Can SOMEONE PLZ help me out. i need help with what to take.

so dissapointed in the forum at the moment

[songdog]

Listen to Gix Bro he is trying to help you.

[brazey]

ty gixxer for the response but i read the Gyno post by Cbyno and is why i was thinkin letro..

Can SOMEONE PLZ help me out. i need help with what to take.

so dissapointed in the forum at the moment

Hang in there but understand there's no quick fix.

[Skywalker727]

well ive decided to run Clomid to reduce the estrogen and get a slight increase in natural test. and i will also be takin natural test products like Tribulus

Gonna push my leg workouts to new heights and cut down on alcohol consumption.

PLZ if anyone has a better solution or suggestion such as Hcg done properly or anything else plzzz im alllll ears.

[LolWuter]

If your test levels are in the low end of normal, you're fine. I know many guys who are there who are natural, most are 19 and 20. It's your other hormones that should be checked. You should run a second PCT but it seems like estrogen is a problem. This is why I prefer people use Aromasin which won't give you estrogen bouncing back since it's a suicidal inhibitor. I don't see how your test levels, which are pretty much fine, can lead to stuff like this. Also it seems like you are kind of sensitive so I would hold off on running Tren or Deca which are hard to bounce back from.

My suggestion:

Get a full hormone panel. I think you might have issues with female sex hormones. I got hard all the time as a teen and I had an undiagnosed thyroid issue that caused gyno from high prolactin levels that come with low thyroid hormone levels. I corrected it when I was 16 (but got gyno during age 14 and didn't get blood work until 16) by going on 50mcg of Synthroid doctor prescribed. I was still hard as **** and tried to **** anything near me with or without the thyroid supplementation. Lifting and thyroid supplementation got me back to where I needed to be hormone wise though except test was still on the lower end of normal but so were most of my lifting friends including guys with huge genetics. Our test rose with age.

So pretty much I don't think it has to do with test. Get a full hormone panel.

[znak]

First I have to say that after taking a few years off from posting on this site, I am really impressed with the advice you are getting.

I don't know what you BF is, but I would guess it is rather high. If so, you MUST control estrogen. #1 is booze. #2 is fat.

Squats improve natty test. So will Trib.

Clomid will help a lot, but it may not kick it back up if your BF/booze hinder the progress.

Diet is very important. Eat lean.