Test e + Tren e cycle

[davey1]

I was considering doing a cycle of test and tren and was looking for opinions on how to cycle it

[gonzo6183]

You will need to post all your stats mate before anyone will give out advice.

Age
Height
weight
bodyfat
training exp
previous cycles

[davey1]

I am 22 years old. 6'4 260 my body fat is around 12%, I have trained hard for the past 6 years. I have not ran a cycle yet, looking to run my first one. My lifting stats are bench-400 squat-600 dead lift- 650

[oatmeal69]

22 is too young. 25 is the general consensus here for minimum age. You still have so much natural ability to grow at 22, why mess with steroids ?
Tren is NOT for a first cycle - ESPECIALLY if you're young. And especially with a longer ether, like Enanthate .

[Thor249]

Wow if those are your stats why do you want to cycle?
What is your goal?
What is the reason you would want to cycle?

[sdmlsu1]

I would run Test E only at about 500/wk your first cycle. You should really have several cycles under your belt prior to running Tren . Also when you do decide to run Tren run Ace. Some people have bad sides from Tren and Ace will clear your system fast. If you run E the first time and have bad sides your in for a miserable ride.

[davey1]

My goal is to put on about 20 lbs of lean muscle. I need to get a little bigger, I play football. I would definatly like to get more definition. Thanks for the advice on tren i will stay away from it for now. Is there any thing else to cycle with test E that you would recommend for a first cycle?

[DamageDealer]

you're on the young side, so even test is not recommended for you. if your stats aren't lying, i don't see the point in using steroids at all unless you're going to compete.

[chickenwing1]

Your a little to young but I know your gonna do it anyway. So test e 500 mg a week. Test e only. Do not stack. Run it for 12 wks. If your smart you will wait til your older but its up to you.

[loki_is_a_god]

Wait till you are 25......you dont want to really mess up your natural test.

[chickenwing1]

I would just wait bro

[gonzo6183]

Wait for 25 man, you can easily do life long damage, worth it for a few lb that you can gain naturally? Hell NO

[davey1]

I see what you guys mean, but i have had friends run it since they were 18 with proper amounts and have no side effects. Just was looking for info

[oatmeal69]

It's not like your friends will suddenly show up at the gym with a third eye... The side effects can be lifelong and yet still not manifest for years. No one here will ever steer you away from doing cycles that have a margin of safety. But most of the guys here who say don't do it before 25 - know what they're talking about through experience unfortunately.