Hey Guys, First time caller long time listener.

[ttufan111]

I'm new here and am seeking some advice. I've been taking hgh for about 2 months now and am not seeing any results that are out of the norm.

I have a pretty good diet and do cardio and lifting at least 3 times a week. I've put on a bit of muscle and lost 4lbs in this 2 month period but I would see these gains regardless, so I'm curious if it's typical for it to take more than 2 months to see the fat burning effects of hgh.

Any help you may have would greatly be appreciated.

Also I think I'm going to start ethanate in about 2 weeks.

[Awesome_Archy]

what are your stats?

[gixxerboy1]

how much gh are you taking? what kind of gh is it?

[ttufan111]

I am 5' 10" tall. I just turned 40. I weighed 209 to 2 months ago now I'm 205. I've got a good frame I've just have to much fat.

Generic hgh. Supposed to be from Europe but who knows. The bottles have no identification on them but the box says Novopropin on it.

I constitute 100iu into the bottle and take a 10iu injection 5 days a week. Anything more than that and my knee swells up.
(which leads me to believe it's legit)

My concern is I would be seeing the results I've had so far without the hgh because their pretty modest gains.

[gixxerboy1]

so if your really using 1iu of generic gh.
i highly doubt thats gh and your not going to see anything from 1iu.
i would save your $$

[ttufan111]

Interesting. So I currently use 50iu a week and you are suggestiong more? I always get confused on moving a solid to a liquid so I'll repeat my constitution one more time in case I got something wrong.

I will take a 1ml diabetic needle and fill it in it's entirety and constitute, then I will inject 10iu a day five days a week.

[gixxerboy1]

your counting water not the actual gh.
if you have generic gh like you do. There is 10iu of gh in each vial. So when you put in 100 units of water. There is 1iu of gh in every 10iu of water.
So you are doing 5iu of gh a week not 50.
i do 5iu of gh a day.

[ttufan111]

Do you have a issues with joints or feet swelling? I already purchased quite a bit so it's not a money thing for me.

[gixxerboy1]

no i ramp up my dose. fingers are a little stiff that's about it. i've been running it since oct this time. So what you take in a week i take in a day and i do it 7 days a week.
and mine is real pharmaceutical gh

[ttufan111]

Do you constitute the same way I do in regards to 100 units of water into the hgh?

[gixxerboy1]

Do you constitute the same way I do in regards to 100 units of water into the hgh?

yes thats how much water i use, but my vials have a different amount of gh in them. So the math works out different.

[ttufan111]

I really appreciate your help on this matter. How do you know how much hgh is in the bottle? Since theirs nothing on my bottles is their a way for me to tell?

[gixxerboy1]

I really appreciate your help on this matter. How do you know how much hgh is in the bottle? Since theirs nothing on my bottles is their a way for me to tell?

i know the generics like you have are 99.9 % of the time 10iu per bottle. You should have 10 vials and its 100iu kit.

[ttufan111]

You are correct. Well, this would explain a
lot! I think I will slowly increase my dosage then. If my calculations are correct your going through a constituted bottle every 2 days?

[gixxerboy1]

You are correct. Well, this would explain a
lot! I think I will slowly increase my dosage then. If my calculations are correct your going through a constituted bottle every 2 days?

if i had yours yes, 1 vial would last me 2 days
i have a different brand some my vials have a different amount of gh in them then yours.

[ttufan111]

I may augment my hgh with ethanate in a few weeks, any suggestions for dosing? My goal is just to get into good shape.

[gixxerboy1]

what do you think your bf % is?

[ttufan111]

About 22%

[ttufan111]

currently 205lbs, would be comfortable around 190.

[gixxerboy1]

i would try and drop a little more bf first. The lower your bf the last sides you may get.
i would run the test e at 400mg's for 10-12 weeks.
You will also need an ai for use on cycle
and clomid and nolva for pct after cycle

[ttufan111]

I forgot to mention I have the option to pick up HCG at the samm time as the test,
do you recomend running all 3 at the same time?

[gixxerboy1]

yes you can use hcg, you should still get an ai.
They all do different things

[ttufan111]

Cool man, well I appreciate all your help on this.

[ttufan111]

I forgot to ask, is that the average dose or are you on a higher dose?