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    First timer

    I just started my first cycle. I'm 38 and have trained hard for 15 years. As of recently a friend of mine talked me into trying a cycle. Ive taken 2 weeks of deca 300 mg and sustanon 200 mg. after week one I noticed slightly sore nipples but thought nothing of it. I then took my next dose of the same quantity. The nipples are still sore (and as I read which I should have done way more research before starting )says maybe gyno. I have decided that this isn't for me and I'm just quitting cold turkey. My first question is should I take any tamoxifen or estrogen blockers to combat this and how long will these nips hurt for seeing I did really small doses for only 2 weeks. Hind sight is 20/20

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    Start using an AI like Adex immediately. 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca, begin using Nolva and Clomid (or just Toremifene).

    Deca is extremely suppressive, and the first shot of it shut down your HPTA. This is a huge reason why 19-nors (nandrolone and Tren) should not be used by novices.

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    Why you use Sustanon and Deca for you first timer? Man you should research before you jump in!
    OK I'm not a steroids user,but I know for first timers,it's best to use TEST E only cycle to check if you can handle them,and you definitely need AI!So now you got gyno?try some arimidex!bro

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    OP, as Bonaparte stated, get yourself on a AI. You can easily get Liquidex from our sponsor (AR-R) at the top of the forum page. What you're experiencing is a receptor sensitivity in your nipples due to the increase of estrogen, which is converting from the testosterone. Hopefully you know your E2 score going into this and you will get a handle on it.

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    Appreciate the info,and how long should I take it? Like a dumb ass I don't know my e2 ,and I'm just trying to damage control and retirement from this. It's just too complicated for mr.

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    Use the AI at .5mg daily until you're ready to start PCT with the SERM(s). Then just switch to the SERMs and run them for 4-5 weeks. But I have to know which ones you're getting before I can give doses.

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    Cool. I haven't ordered the ai as of not sure which to get. I took 2 weeks of the cycle and the last dose was a week ago. I don't know what to use for the pct and any advice would be appreciated. What are if I do nothing and wait it out? As the soreness in my nipples is easing up quite a bit.

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    Adex is good.

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