2nd cycle: Test E + Prov

[ThatAthlete82]

Stats:
Age-24
Height-6'1''
Weight-206
BF-13% (Used the one that sends electrical current through your body-so take with grain of salt)
Experience-Lifting involved with athletics, not bodybuilding, about 6 years now.

My first cycle was var only 80mg ed for 8 weeks, loved the results I got with it but I think it's time to take the training wheels off. I'm wanting to drop down to about 190-195 and keep my strength/muscle. I had no negative side effects such as gyno/acne with my first cycle except for a decreased libido(which is normal running a cycle without test I suppose).

Proposed cycle:
250mg Test E/week for 8 weeks
25mg-50mg Proviron/ED for 8 weeks

PCT:
20mg Tamox/ED for 4 weeks
.5mg Armi/ED for 4 weeks

Is my Test E dosage too low?
Thoughts on Proviron during a cutting cycle such as this? What's an appropriate dosage/length? Is it necessary?
Anything I'm missing?

[DamageDealer]

that is a horrible cycle. 250mg of test e for 8 weeks is nothing. test e should be done at 500mg per week for at least 12 weeks. and what's with the proviron? it's not an anabolic compound. your PCT looks horrible. either way, man, you shouldn't juice, as you don't know anything about steroid science

[blksavage]

how are you going to run test e for right weeks and run your ai for only four? ? ? ?

[ThatAthlete82]

double post

[ThatAthlete82]

that is a horrible cycle. 250mg of test e for 8 weeks is nothing. test e should be done at 500mg per week for at least 12 weeks. and what's with the proviron? it's not an anabolic compound. your PCT looks horrible. either way, man, you shouldn't juice, as you don't know anything about steroid science

250mg Test E is too low, even for pretty much a first timer?

I figured the 8 weeks was on the low end.

I read from the Proviron profile that it is a very good stack with Test. I quote "Thus, if you are taking a simple stack of proviron and testosterone, you’ll have more of the test you shoot as free testosterone floating around building muscle (compliments of the Proviron), more androgen receptors to be bound to (compliments of your testosterone) by your Proviron, thus causing more fat loss. Testosterone and Proviron are a very nice synergistic stack , pretty nearly an “ideal” stack of an oral and injectable, because both drugs will actually act to enhance the effect of the other."

Am I mistaken about proviron being helpful for a cycle like this?

Those PCT compounds weren't my first choice but my supplier is limited. I have both a SERM and AI, could you please explain a little as to why it is "horrible"?

[ThatAthlete82]

question answered

[JonnyConcrete]

Your AI should be ran during your cycle not for PCT. Your PCT should be at least Nolva 40/40/20/20, most would add clomid as well.

HCG on cycle if very popular these days to keep your nads in shape.

As for the cycle I'd stick to test e/c for 12 weeks @ 400-500mg a week

[JonnyConcrete]

Also after reading your above post I am 100% sure you are nit ready to cycel. please do some more research. With a long estered tst cycle you should wait 14-17 days after your last shot before PCT

[ThatAthlete82]

Thanks. You have any thoughts on the proviron? Is it necessary for my goals?

"With a long estered test cycle you should wait 14-17 days after last shot before starting PCT"
LOL, then I guess I need to read stickies that have been updated more. I've read all the newbie starter guides and I read to start PCT after the day after the last shot with Test E.

[JonnyConcrete]

I don't know much about it to be honest, but I doubt many people will recommend it for your cycle as test is all you need