cycle input please

[magicstick2003]

Pretty much have everything ready to go but will be holding off till I get the last few bottles of ancillaries. Anyway thinking of running a 10 week cycle here it is. Ran 3 cycles in past haven't done anything in over a year. #1 500 mg test E 12 wks, #2 500TE/400Deca 14 wk #3 600TE/400Deca 14 wk.
Used dbol as a kick one cycle and test prop as a kick on the other.

Wk 1-10 Test P 100mg EOD (don't mind pinning daily if the results are more noticeable, EOD is just a little more convenient)
Wk 1-10 Nolva 10 mg ED
Wk 1-10 A-dex 0.5mg EOD
Wk 1-10 T3 75mcg ED <---- will ramp down
Wk 1-10 Clen will ramp dose based on how I'm feeling.
Will use ketotifen every 2 wk at 2-3mg daily (have never used keto. before so input would be appreciated on this one)

PCT 3 days after last test p

nolva 10 mg daily

Clomid 300, 100, 50 (I've always used this older protocol for clomid; if newer dosing is more beneficial I am open to trying it)


Any suggestions as far as dosing would be appreciated (Test P input would be great since I've always run long esters and know per mg you're getting more actual hormone with the prop, is 100 good?). I will also be supplementing with Taurine and potassium with the clen to hopefully avoid cramping this go around (although it didn't help too much last time I used it despite drinking 1+ gal water a day with it). Also before anyone suggests HCG i don't have access to it so running is it not an option.

[magicstick2003]

anyone have any input? Good or bad. I think I have a pretty decent handle on things but I just like making sure.

[Razor]

toss the clen out, your going to hinder gains and have a lot of cramping running it for 10 weeks even with keto replace it with t3 if you still want extra fat burn

[magicstick2003]

I was really thinking about that when I was writing it up. Longest I ran it before was like 6 weeks (did the old 2 on 2 off method) cramps did get out of hand at higher doses. That was the one thing I wasn't 100% sure I was going to run based on previous experience with it.

[Razor]

When it comes to clen, I think I know more than most people around here about it. Ive got 300 caps in my cabinet with my name on it. I love it and use it often and know how to use it. I dont do cardio on clen I dont run it on cycle and I run it 2on2 off. Runing it OC is going to mess you up..Run the t3, much better option and a better synergistic effect.

If you want to use the clen pre cycle to help prime for the cycle by cutting carbs then do that.

Another thing you dont need to run nova on cycle thats why you have adex, save the nova for pct. dose it 40/40/20/20 and the clomid 50/50/25/25 start this three to four days after your last inject of prop.

[magicstick2003]

I've always done the nolva on cycle with the ai as like a double precaution. Ill try the ai alone and see how it goes this time around. Thanks again for the input. The clomid advice is great, I always did the older pct method but had seen everyone going the lower dose route lately. I hear ya with the clen. Its rough at times, did cardio first time I used it and I really didn't feel good while doing it and eventually cut back on the cardio all together while using it (ended up just walking rather than intervals or running). I had thought about maybe doing a lower dose and just keeping it constant but seeing as you adjust to it and the effects wane off when you adjust that would be useless. I'll just use it off cycle as you suggest. Definitely will be using the T3 with the cycle though.

[Razor]

Running nova on cycle is really old methodology..you can keep with nova on hand incase or keep some letro on hand, but I dont think your doing yourself any favors running in throughout the cycle with Adex..thats just to much female hormones. If gyno becomes and issue you can just increase the adex to .25 ED if necessary if you feel any nipple sensitivity.. I really think you would be better served doing this and for sure have better gains with the cycle. too much of one thing can be too much get my drift?

[magicstick2003]

I gotcha, I agree. I never really had any issues but mainly attributed it to the ai and nolva. I'll have everything on hand prior to starting so nolva will be avail if needed. As you can see by the old protocols it's been a bit since I did anything; that's why I wanted to run everything through here before I started.

[Razor]

well i think i got you dialed in so you should be good to go.. post some progress pics for us when you go on

[ironbeck]

pls continue to post