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    Tren A/Test P/Clen cycle

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    5'10,189lbs, 13.8 bf
    4th cycle

    Looking to clean bulk and then at the end shed the last few bf% during pct and a couple weeks after with clen with the final goal of 205 with bf under 10% not sure if this is possible, but i feel with the manipulation of calories and cardio at the end it's obtainable. after all my previous cycles i join a team event or run in long distance races and lose my gains. hurt my hamstring and at 29, i'm no longer participating at any other sport but body building (it's not that i train less or less intense, i just change my focus due to what i'm doing) which will enable me to retain my gains.

    weeks 1-4 3500 calories, 400g/pro, 400g/carb
    weeks 5-10 5000 calories, 420g/pro, 420g/carb
    weeks 11-16 3000 calories, 420/pro, 270g/carb

    weeks 1-12 test prop 100mg/eod
    weeks 1-8 test a 100mg/eod
    weeks 10-16 clen/keto 80mg/ed
    weeks 13-17 nolva/clomid 40/100 edx1week, 20/50 ed/3weeks

    adex on hand but no hcg .
    any and all thoughts or suggestions are welcome. thanks!

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    your goals are totally achieveable, what are your maintenance calories currently, why no HCG ? what about the T3? are you priming before the cycle?

    what about running the tren up to week 11 say, personally i dont like clen and wont use it again-too many sides even at 20mcg even though i had good results.

    I think its a weak PCT for that cycle.

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    Thanks MR! i don't have access to hcg is the only reason i'm not running it. also, from everything i read the t3 would make me lose muscle right? from everything else i've researched that for first time tren users to only do a 8 week cycle. as far as my pct what would you suggest to change? dosage and or length, or both? i didn't do any priming. too many people were 50/50 who posted about it so i opted not to. what would you suggest as far as changes?
    thanks for the time MR!

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    PCT starts 3 days after your last pinning of Test Prop.

    Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 100/100/50/50

    You can run Arimidex at 0.25mg EOD or even E3D, depending on your experience of estrogen related side effects such as bloating, acne, mood swings, early signs of gyno and etc.

    Proper HCG use throughout the cycle would have made a big difference in terms of the pace and quality of recovery during and after PCT.

    Good luck with your cycle.

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    You should pin tren a everyday

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    Thanks turk, i was going to do pct 2nd day... i should've put that down. Patrick-you think ed is necessary? 99% of what i've looked up said eod was suitable. you think the esther is too short for eod?
    Thanks guys!

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    No, ED pinning for Acetate is NOT necessary. EOD is fine. Same story for Test Prop.

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    Thanks Turk!

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