Second cycle advice

[usmcarty]

Ok i was thinking about running test cyp for 8 weeks and starting at week 3 tren ace.

1) how much tren do i use first timer
2) what do i use to prevent sides
3) what do i use for pct


Thanks gents, Semper Fi, God speed.

[dooie]

Ok i was thinking about running test cyp for 8 weeks and starting at week 3 tren ace.

1) how much tren do i use first timer
2) what do i use to prevent sides
3) what do i use for pct

Thanks gents, Semper Fi, God speed.

What r ur stats? It's not recommended to use Tren on ur second let alone 3rd cycle

[usmcarty]

6'4'' 217 lbs 12% bf lifting 3 years.

why is that?

Thanks.

[JDBeretta]

Way too short to be running test Cyp.

Tren is considered to be a compound for advanced AAS users. I usually see people saying to run it on cycle # 8 or more.

You can get a lot out of milder compounds before you step into the darkest corner of the dark side. Muhahahahaha.

Honestly though, I can't wait until I'm ready for Tren.

[gearbox]

Tren is a very powerful aas but harsh on your body and comes with harsh side. The fact that you want advice of what to take with it and pct, shows you are not ready for tren. No offense op. As said about there are a lot of other aas that can give you great results

[usmcarty]

thanks guys, what do you recommend instead?


well i know im supposed to take it with nolva and clen but i dont know the dosage.

Thanks.

[Razor]

Semper fi brother
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2001-2007
0352 Sergeant

[JDBeretta]

What are you trying to do? Like what are your goals from this cycle?

[usmcarty]

I would like to put on 20-25 lbs, and have veins that look like oil pipelines and just absolutely shredded. After considering the above I have decided to wait on the tren, Thanks guys. But i Would like to cut up before I return stateside early/ mid 2013. I am just looking for coaching when it comes to that time, any advice on what and how to stack with test cyp.


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[Razor]

Field Artillery bad ass.

[JDBeretta]

I hear mixed reviews of Eq, but I am on it right now and my vascularity is awesome.

The downside to Eq is that you have to run high dosages (I am on 700/week) and for long periods of time. You'd be looking at a 16week cycle (with test the entire time) followed by an aggressive PCT not unlike the one you outlined in your original post. But you'd likely need HCG for sure.

Read up on Eq and see what you think... It sounds more along the lines of what you're trying to achieve. 20lbs is pretty crazy. You might put that on when you're on (not likely if you're at a state where you are actually ready to cycle) but will lose a bunch of it... Water weight. An AI would help combat this and keep your gains more real and dry.

Let me know what you think. There are vets here that will offer you better advice than I ever could.

[Razor]

EQ Sucks

try this
week 1-10 600mg test enanthate
week 1-10 400mg masteron enanthate
week 1-10 350mg proviron
week 1-10 t3 75mcg Ed
week 8-10 clen 120mcg ED
HCG 500iu 2X a week monday-thursday
Arimedex .25mg 2x a week
PCT Torem/Clomid

[usmcarty]

It was Razr, wouldn't change it for the world. If I had the opportunity to do it again I wouldn't get married and would be a lifer.

Hey, I'm sorry for my newbness lol but what is HCG and how big of an injection is 700 a week? Like as far as cc's? I can do a long cycle because I'm about to deploy in a bit and I will have nothing else to do. And what is an AI? What would you recommend for PCT?

[Razor]

Read above

[usmcarty]

How come its in mg? How much of this am I going to need?

[Razor]

How come its in mg? How much of this am I going to need?

I don't understand the question

[usmcarty]

If they are injectable wouldn't they be in ml or cc?

[usmcarty]

Razr, you smoke marlboros by chance?

[Razor]

If they are injectable wouldn't they be in ml or cc?

Its like mg per ml
Test prop 100mg/ml or 1cc/ 100mg..same thing

No I don't smoke

[usmcarty]

Oh okay thanks was confused as hell lol. So for example in your stack above would it be 600 mg a week for 10 weeks with thest e?

The Veni, vidv vici is on marlboros so I figured you did.

[Razor]

Oh okay thanks was confused as hell lol. So for example in your stack above would it be 600 mg a week for 10 weeks with thest e?

The Veni, vidv vici is on marlboros so I figured you did.

Julius Cesar

[usmcarty]

Oh okay.

Will 600 mg last the full 10 weeks for the test?

[JDBeretta]

It'll be 600mg/week.