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    I am the exception. Does it still not matter?

    Whats up guys? This is my first post here and I come baring a real question based on MY circumstances.

    Ill jump right into it.

    Stats:
    Age 19
    Weight 205
    6' 2"
    8.5% BF
    Lifting 3 years solid no breaks or downtime

    Question:
    Although I am not 21 or 22 like everyone says you should wait until to juice, I feel like my circumstances may be different. I am the exception to all the stereotypical teens out there that just want to juice without any research or having a solid base to work off of.

    I went through puberty pretty young and haven't grown any more in the last year. I have a solid diet and calculate my macros and calories every day. I weigh my food, rest appropriately and lift with perfect form. Before I do anything new I research it until I am a pro and know exactly what I am doing to my body.

    I feel I have the dedication and knowledge necessary to juice responsibly and really take my training to the next level. I have a modeling show coming up in de***ber and I feel like I will stand out and maybe get some solid offers if I stand out from the crowd. I dont know if I will get another shot like this and I want to capitalize on it.

    I know I am ONLY 19 (will be 20 by showtime) but will it really mess me up to juice responsibly with a beginner cycle with full PCT and proper diet?

    If you're curious about the cycle I would take it would be:
    10-12week Test Enanthate cycle
    Nolva ED (gyno prevention)
    w/ letrozole and clomid on hand

    Thank you in advance for solid answers helping me with this dilemma I have been having for a long time.

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    your "the exception" because you want to become a model?

    unfortunately you are not the exception to all the teens out there until you become 25 and your endocrine system is matured. unless you have an endocrinologist give you a certificate telling you that you have a fully functional matured endocrine system- you are not experiencing an exceptional circumstance.

    if you really researched you would already know that.

    not to flame you but, its not worth the risks just yet- wait it out until your 25

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    "If you're curious about the cycle I would take it would be:
    10-12week Test Enanthate cycle
    Nolva ED (gyno prevention) wrong
    w/ letrozole and clomid on hand wrong

    Thank you in advance for solid answers helping me with this dilemma I have been having for a long time."

    the dilemma is 19 and you have no idea how to run a cycle..wait till your 27-30 you will thank me later

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    Everything I read shows you are they typical rule because everyone under 25 thinks they are the exception. Everyone or most everyone has a similar excuse, experience, goals and feel it wont happen to them; HPTA shutdown, hair-loss, acne or ED. We have lots of prior exceptions to the rule who come here almost daily asking for help after they cycle and even more members in their early 30s who are on HRT due to low T from doing aas when they were younger.

    Welcome to being like most ever other 19 yr old. If you want to be the exception then follow the way of the Few, educated and happy members who decided to listen and not cycle.

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    The exception would be that I actually have a structured diet, know what I am doing, and I am not looking for an "easy way out".

    How is the nolva ed and clomid/letty on hand wrong? (I know how to pct I wasnt giving my dosing I was just saying what I would have on hand)

    Thank you for the clarification though, I know my endocrine system probably ISNT fully developed I am just eager. I will wait though and it will pay off.
    Last edited by xxcjtxx; 04-17-2012 at 01:56 AM.

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    Bro your [email protected]% I would kill to be in that situation...your huge..be happy and forget about drugs..wait keep training and keep on keeping on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxcjtxx View Post
    The exception would be that I actually have a structured diet, know what I am doing, and I am not looking for an "easy way out".

    How is the nolva ed and clomid/letty on hand wrong? (I know how to pct I wasnt giving my dosing I was just saying what I would have on hand)

    Thank you for the clarification though, I know my endocrine system probably fully developed I am just eager. I will wait though and it will pay off.


    Although the having a structured diet may be an exception it's still not a reason or exception to using aas at your age. Knowing what you are doing isnt true because if you truly did you would not be considering doing it.

    Using nolv as gyno prevention on cycle is not recommended and will diminish gains. There are a lot of better choices of things to use on cycle to prevent gyno. Another exception to the rule debunked...

    You are saying you know your endocrine system is fully developed? lol If so then again you are no exception but just another misinformed youth. Have you gotten a full skeletal xray to back up these claims? Like I said before, every 19 yr old thinks they are finished growing. Even if you dont get taller you will still fill out, wider shoulders, chest etc unless you do fuse your bones due to aas use.

    I know you are saying you will wait but honestly will you? I doubt it because I can read between the lines and everything I read says you still THINK you know what is best and you still THINK you are an exception.

    I hope you notice I am not slamming you, I'm only pointing out the facts.

    Good luck.

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    I totally meant to say "I know my endocrine system probably ISNT fully developed." Whoops.

    This is the reason I came to this forum. I can ask legitimate questions and get legitimate answers. This isnt just a flame sesh with tons of douchebags yelling TOO YOUNG! NEGGED!

    I will wait atleast another year and a half or so and see where I am at. I will be 21 by then and know more than I do now.

    What do you recommend over nolva ED? Letty/Arimidex through cycle or no anxcillaries until signs of gyno appear?

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    Also would chronic acne help with your chances of getting a contract? I think not and it is a definate possibility if you use AAS

    Just something else for you to consider........

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxcjtxx
    I totally meant to say "I know my endocrine system probably ISNT fully developed." Whoops.

    This is the reason I came to this forum. I can ask legitimate questions and get legitimate answers. This isnt just a flame sesh with tons of douchebags yelling TOO YOUNG! NEGGED!

    I will wait atleast another year and a half or so and see where I am at. I will be 21 by then and know more than I do now.

    What do you recommend over nolva ED? Letty/Arimidex through cycle or no anxcillaries until signs of gyno appear?
    An a.i should always be used as your estrogen may still be far too high even without any symptoms but using an a.i correctly will keep it in the nornal ranges

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    Everyone here is trying to give you advice for your benefit. At the age of 21 you are still not fully developed and can still do just as much damage as at 19, wait until you are at least 25 bud.

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    If you truly do wait and stick around learning more until you are 21 by then you should be educated enough and have grown enough to realize you still have several years of natural growth potential to go and starting even at 21 be a bad idea, that is IF you stick around and continue learning. Dont just write it off and not bother to stay and learn thinking to just come back or go somewhere else in a year or two thinking you will be ready.

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    to be honest you could be alot heavier at 6ft2 if you bulked up abit and then leaned down again.

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    Bro i just turned 18, im ur height and im 15 pounds heavier than u at 8% bf. im natural too. We have testosterone that is super high at our age. Just make the most of ur test levels now, and build a really solid base. Then juice down the track and ur more likely to keep ur gains. I already know what cycle i wana do first and i will plan 50 cycles before i do one. Patience is key especially if u wana do modelling- just stick it out as a natty for now and focus on getting ur diet and training even better. Believe me, no matter how good u think it is, it can be better!!

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