Test Cyp / Deca Cycle - sides & advice

[Nakanoshima]

Hi

I am about to run my second cycle.

First cycle was 12 weeks:

Test Prop 150mg p/w
Primobolan 200mg p/w
PCT: Nolvadex & HCG


Second Cycle I'm about to start:

Test Cyp - 400 mg p/w
Deca - 400 mg p/w
Anastrozole - .5mg every day

PCT - Nolvadex & HCG

From reading the All You Need To Know About Gyno post it seems that Letrozole is the AI of choice when it comes to preventing gyno. I will be taking .5mg of Anastrozole. Will this be enough prevention against Deca sides? I'm thinking mostly about gyno here.

Also, the author of the Deca profile page here says it is a good idea to have Bromocriptine on hand. Do I need to take this if I am taking Anastrozole? If so, what is the recommended dosage?

Thanks in advance.

[Nakanoshima]

Bump!

[znak]

In general you want to use more test than deca. I love your first cycle. Beautiful. Clean. Safe.

Deca is an animal of its own. The shut down is very, very hard.

You have done your research, I will hand you that, but based on your first cycle, would go 400/200. You will be very happy with the results. Once you have a chance to see what Deca does to your body, then if you want bump them both up next time (500/300).

[songdog]

You need to do some research bro.150 mg prop a week is a waste of time and so is 200mg primo.PCT is nova and clomid for 4 or 5 weeks.HCG isnt for pct you use it during cycle.Read the pct stickies learn about gyno and letro isnt a good choice for a ai.Beacuse it will wipe out over 90% of your estro.And you need estro to grow.Read beginners cycles read why we use a AI by Swifto.

[Nakanoshima]

Ok thanks znak I am thinking I will go the 400/200 route as it's only my second cycle. BUT from what I have read, to get results from deca the dosage needs to be at least 400mg p/w. Is this true?

Also, any advice on the following would be great:

From reading the All You Need To Know About Gyno post it seems that Letrozole is the AI of choice when it comes to preventing gyno . I will be taking .5mg of Anastrozole. Will this be enough prevention against Deca sides? I'm thinking mostly about gyno here.

Also, the author of the Deca profile page here says it is a good idea to have Bromocriptine on hand. Do I need to take this if I am taking Anastrozole? If so, what is the recommended dosage?

[Nakanoshima]

Don't want to get off topic, but my first cycle actually gave some good results considering how low the doses were. I'd rather play it safe. I'm pretty cautious when it comes to injecting substances into my body.

Songdog - I have read the posts you mentioned and a few others and my questions are based on what I read in those posts. If you have any info relating to the questions I am asking please let me know.

And thanks for the info about running HCG on cycle. Again there is conflicting info regarding this, but on cycle seems to be what most people are doing so I'll look into this further.

[Too Little Muscles]

The 2nd steroid I ever took was Primobolin depot also, 200 mgs. a week. this was over 20 years ago and there were no forums, no internet, so I just went by the insert recommendation. I gained 6 lbs. of muscle in 8 weeks. Noticeable increase in size in all muscle groups. My body responded to the hormone increase because it was new to me. Now, 200mg. will do nothing for me. I would not even bother with Primo again. Only way I can gain now is with the stronger stuff at higher dosages. I also noticed an increase in libido with that 200 mg. I also kept all the gain for many months.

Don't want to get off topic, but my first cycle actually gave some good results considering how low the doses were. I'd rather play it safe. I'm pretty cautious when it comes to injecting substances into my body.

Songdog - I have read the posts you mentioned and a few others and my questions are based on what I read in those posts. If you have any info relating to the questions I am asking please let me know.

And thanks for the info about running HCG on cycle. Again there is conflicting info regarding this, but on cycle seems to be what most people are doing so I'll look into this further.

[Capebuffalo]

If you thought you got good results off your first cycle do it again but increase the dosage. No need to change the compounds. Try the prop at 500 mgs per week.

[demyze]

Deca will shut you down hard, also you run the risk of getting deca dick on cycle, so if you still want your dick to work I def recommend a higher test to deca ratio. If you do 400 test, I would do 200 deca for example. Just to be on the safe side of things. Just my two cents.

[Nakanoshima]

Ok I'm locked into the 400 test / 200 deca cycle.

Does anyone has any advice on the following:

For prevention of sides is .5mg ED of Anastrozole too little or too much or just right?

Should I also have Bromocriptine on hand as suggested or is Anastrozole enough as a preventative?

[znak]

Ok I'm locked into the 400 test / 200 deca cycle.

Does anyone has any advice on the following:

For prevention of sides is .5mg ED of Anastrozole too little or too much or just right?

Should I also have Bromocriptine on hand as suggested or is Anastrozole enough as a preventative?

It is exactly what I have used on that exact cycle many times. This is a very sane cycle.

[znak]

BTW I misread your prop on your first cycle, 150 in a week is very, very low. Basically you ran a very low level primo cycle.

[Nakanoshima]

It is exactly what I have used on that exact cycle many times. This is a very sane cycle.

Bromocriptine as well? If so what was the dosage?

[ROXXXTAR]

I feel fat just thinking about Dec and Cyp... Its like cycling with a all ice cream diet!

[leather daddy]

most people ive tlake to run deca at at least 400mg per week for mass building. 200mg per week will do nothing but help joints out

[songdog]

Bro run your test @ 500mg per week Deca @ 400mg per week HCG at 250 ius 2x a week.For a AI I run Adex @ .25EOD.Now I dont know much about Bromo beacuse I know more about Caber(Dosinex) .25 2 xtimes a week if you have pregestrone problems. Now run your cycle like this and if your diet is on you will do good.Run this 12 weeks.

[Chuckdiesel]

most people ive tlake to run deca at at least 400mg per week for mass building. 200mg per week will do nothing but help joints out

200mg a week does fine for adding some mass bro but 400mg a week will definitely increase your gains. Keep your intake to about 2mg per lb of bodyweight to maximize nandrolone decanoate usage

[znak]

Bro run your test @ 500mg per week Deca @ 400mg per week HCG at 250 ius 2x a week.For a AI I run Adex @ .25EOD.Now I dont know much about Bromo beacuse I know more about Caber(Dosinex) .25 2 xtimes a week if you have pregestrone problems. Now run your cycle like this and if your diet is on you will do good.Run this 12 weeks.

Total respect songdog, but based on his first cycle, I would check to see how he is going to handle deca and do what you are recommending on the third cycle.

[Julcello17]

Hello everyone I'm new and don't know how to start a new thread, I need some advice on the following.
I have super t400, deca 300, and dbol. I was advised to run this for 5 weeks cuz it my first time. Along with with an anti estro, and hgc at the end along with clomid after the second week for four weeks.
I will be taking super t 400 twice a week along with deca at 300 and dbol everyday along with my anti estro. Any advice would be awesome. I'm abit nervous about messing something up.

[Nakanoshima]

Hello everyone I'm new and don't know how to start a new thread, I need some advice on the following.
I have super t400, deca 300, and dbol. I was advised to run this for 5 weeks cuz it my first time. Along with with an anti estro, and hgc at the end along with clomid after the second week for four weeks.
I will be taking super t 400 twice a week along with deca at 300 and dbol everyday along with my anti estro. Any advice would be awesome. I'm abit nervous about messing something up.

Read the forums and gather as much info as possible. IMO you should not do all those AAS for a first cycle. As you can read from this post and many others, Deca is not something to play around with.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but just because it's your first cycle does not mean it should be short. A 12 week cycle is fine as long as you have your dosage, AI, and PCT sorted.

Also, please post your stats so you can get the most accurate info from the members as possible.

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