Does anavar really work alone? Does 50mg a day for 8 weeks sound about right? Is pct needed for an anavar only cycle? Need advice. Thanks.
Does anavar really work alone? Does 50mg a day for 8 weeks sound about right? Is pct needed for an anavar only cycle? Need advice. Thanks.
I would run it at 60 to 70mg myself.
I wudnt run alone unless your a female not being a dik being honest
Depends what your goals are...anavar will work at 50 mg, but as said above you probably wanna take more. Anavar promotes slow steady growth that is very incramental. Gains are quality and well retained.
1 of my mates is running an anavar, GH cycle atm ill let you know in a few months how it goes, he was getting loads of side effects off test etc so he switched to anavar and gh for well being reasons, hes allready a beast from big cycles he has run so it will be interesting to see if he can hold his size on the GH and anavar
Is there any main side effects?
dam i need to start paying attention to the dates of these threads that peeps keep bumping...stop bummping old threads...
You needing research on the subject you searched for?
I cantell you this, from personal experience, anavar is not as "mild" as some lead you to believe. It is manageable,but it is not a wimpy compound. And look into the beginners cycles first. You always should prepare you cycle well ahead of time. Get all gear (AAS, AI, PCT, HCG<if desired) and use testosterone as a base. Test is used for literally every cycle to some degree, or should be unless there is a certain criteria(women, illness). Of course, there is also the concern with being of approrpiate age. Most studies haveshown the HPTA system is fully or close to maturation by age 25. Good luck!
I would not run anavar or any compound without a test base. An from personal experience I ran 60mg day with ok results but wouldnt run again under 80mg to 100mg a day. An my results were with test not anavar alone.
With you on this one, I don't know why people go overboard and say "you have to run it with test" the drug was produced to be run without it, if people do some research on why these drugs were created in the first place, might be better off. Yes if you run it with test you might have better gains but then again a person might not be looking to gain a bunch of water weight, take an AI risk getting test flu and using needles and all the other things associated with stacking it with test like high BPH, high BP and elevated e2 and let's not forget Gyno to top it off. Var is very safe and taking with a liver anti oxidant like NAC makes it even safer.
I ran var by itself many times and am just fine and better for it, sometimes i didnt want to run test and I needed a var pick me up, it worked, kept mostly everything gained muscle, loss fat, increased hardness, helped with joints, ran with hcg, then mild pct and back in business. Its a perfect steroid in my opinion.
Var can be safely run alone and that's the truth
Let's take a wiki glance:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxandrolone
And steroid.com: http://www.steroid.com/Anavar.php
Last edited by Phased; 10-09-2012 at 11:27 PM.
Missing the point I was making. I recommended using test at some degree, because to the very nature of what anavar is, it is most likely to cause some supression. Now I have recommend the use alone in the past becasue a suppression is better than a shutdown, but I am also taking into consideration that the guy who bumper the thread is afraid of needles and it would be bad practice for anyone to recommend an oral only cycle to anyone who is new. Supression can cause the same signsas low T because theoretically, that is what supression is. I would hate to be on a compound that I might gain 5 lbs on but feel like hell. KNow what I mean? I think for anyones first cycle, they should experience better gains and overall a better feeling of well being. Var without test made me feel like crap and gave me horrible sides. Should I recommend doing something that I know for myself was a bad idea? Hell no. But then again, I am not a knowledgeable member and cant flame mere associate or new members can I? So run var alone and report bad when your are awake for 3 days straight and sweating/hot flashes and night terrors. Take all the advice of the guys in red, not the guys in gray. Good job.
And yes, if anavar is ran solo, a short lived PCT should be used due to testosterone suppression, which will happen. AsI stated before, I wouldnt runanything without using test in some degree, even mild TRT doses. Especially for a first cycle. Gains will be a let down on var if that is your first cycle.
Honestly I didn't even read your post so none of what I said was directed at you, blue green yellow red grey colors do not matter to me. I'm only going off how I feel and run with var and the good results I had. Sometimes in the past I just didn't want to worry about Gyno, BP, BPH, this that and the other then take all the meds to counteract the effects of test. Yes test is great with var, bottom line. Can it be run alone and still have good results...yes. Sorry you had bad results without it, everyone is different. Some people can't use test, others can, some people respond well to one thing and not to another. Some people don't want to use test for personal reasons others do.
Before taking any advice from anyone research, read, learn listen then decide.
Best.
No problems. I just dont give advice that is pro-oral AAS for someone who might be scarred of needles because you and I know that var would be a disappointment ran alone to make significant gains. I could tell be his pic that var gains wouldnt suit his goals. I just thought that if he used the var and wasnt pleased, what would stop him from running a Dbol or Anadrol only oral cycle? Both of those will destroy your test production and have to have test in there for those. That all I was geting at. I have many time on this board tell people that var will suppress, but more than likely wouldnt shut a person down completly. That is not to say it wouldnt affect them such as sex drive, energy, etc that come from natty test. But suppression, in my opinion, is better than a total shut down, but I wouldnt recommend it to someone who is uneducated on AAS use. No hard feelings. I just wanted to clear the air about my intentions in this case.
When I did var only I did 700iu hcg EW and followed up with mild pct.
Clomid 50/50/25/25
No nolva
Never had erection issues and hcg kept me from getting shutdown to hard.
Good talking to ya
Best
I did 6 weeks of V at 50 per day. I gained about 8 pounds on the cycle.
I've maintained about 4 of those pounds.
I've started 7 weeks ago and have leaned out...and not gained weight.
I'm ready to try var again.....
This time for 6 weeks at 70-80 per day
Think I will see some gains.
Ive done VAR only cycles and love em...... best results were 4 weeks on - 2 weeks off - 4 weeks back on
Never mind
Last edited by BDubya1; 03-08-2013 at 05:01 PM.
check out this study.. http://www.ergo-log.com/oxandrolonetestosterone.html 100mg test plus 20mg anavar put on more weight than 600mg test alone..
DigitalGorilla, Did you used any pct and how? Thanks.
Last edited by Hrgaland; 08-11-2013 at 01:16 PM. Reason: Forgot to qoute
damn way to bring this one back from the dead, and yes you do need to pct if you are going to do anavar only but no one is going to say do an oral only cycle
But I'm interested in the way of it. Because he cycled on unusual way, 4 on, 2 off, and then 4 on again.
yea I am interested in the 4 on 2 off cycle as well
how low can u go as far as dose for the test? i am looking to do 50mg of var so i was reading in, but i don't want to gain too much mass, more looking to get ripped not much size, im also on hgh.....any suggestions?
sorry to but in ive just been researching the forum
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