First Cycle, Please review

[thelazygent]

Hi guys. Im 23, 6'1 about 210 with a 13% body fat. My bodybuilder friend wants to put me of 500mg of Test E a week for 3 months. Followed by PCT of Nolva. I have been in a plateau for like 2 years and I have been lifting for 5 years. My goals are to get stronger.

Just a few questions.

1. Does Test E convert easily into estrogen? While I have problems getting it up? What im asking is if I should use an Anti-Estrogen or HCG while on cycle?

2. I heard that you should never drink on prohormones, but you can drink on injectables. What is everyones opinion on this? I like to party a good bit i have about 7 rum and cokes a night and typically party about 2-3 times a week. I hear drinking on injectables will effect your gains, but will not do damage to your personal health.

3. Will I get too big? I live with my parents, so will it be obvious to them that im Juicing?

4. My bodybuilder friend who Im good buds with is going charge me 250 for the Test E and 60 for Nolva, but my other friend deals too and he said he can get me all that for half of that price and that im getting ripped off by my friend. I told my BB friend and he said thats BS its probably fake. IDK who believe, so can someone tell me what does Test E 500mg a week for 3 months on average go for?

5. My BB friend tells me that if I dont change my diet then I wont lean up, but my cousin hoped on the sauce and he said he leaned up considerably while not changing his diet. I dont eat great, but I dont eat bad either. So will I lean up if I dont change my diet?

6. Should I take Milk Thisltle for my liver? OR is it not really necessary on injections?

[BoostedZ33]

I know my post count says i am new, but i hope i can give advice from my experience. My response is in red bold.


1. Does Test E convert easily into estrogen? While I have problems getting it up? What im asking is if I should use an Anti-Estrogen or HCG while on cycle ?

Test is make you get it up all the time. Even when you dont want. If you were on a Deca style only cycle you would have issues in that dept. PCT is a very long winded debate which is better read than told. Research will be your friend and listen to your body.

2. I heard that you should never drink on prohormones , but you can drink on injectables. What is everyones opinion on this? I like to party a good bit i have about 7 rum and cokes a night and typically party about 2-3 times a week.

If you a really trying to break this plateau you are claiming alcohol should be one of the things you cut back on or give up in general.

3. Will I get too big? I live with my parents, so will it be obvious to them that im Juicing?

You should gain roughly 15lb solid muscle if diet is correct, but if not you will look like a bloated water ball. Your parents might or might know whats going on depends on how smart they are on the subject.

4. My bodybuilder friend who Im good buds with is going charge me 250 for the Test E and 60 for Nolva, but my other friend deals too and he said he can get me all that for half of that price and that im getting ripped off by my friend. I told my BB friend and he said thats BS its probably fake. IDK who believe, so can someone tell me what does Test E 500mg a week for 3 months on average go for?

If rules are still the same you cant mention prices on here but depends on the dosage of the bottle per ml as to what the price will be. Fakes are out there. If you dont get sore at shot location then its probably bunk.

5. My BB friend tells me that if I dont change my diet then I wont lean up, but my cousin hoped on the sauce and he said he leaned up considerably while not changing his diet . I dont eat great, but I dont eat bad either. So will I lean up if I dont change my diet ?

If you increase your cardio you will lean. I would suggest coming up with a good diet plan and post it here for vets to critique.




Also, thanks for not asking if a dbol only cycle for your first cycle was good.

[bigswoll]

Your 2 young steroids are not going to give u discipline which u need. When Ur diet is 100% and u know what your natural test levels are and when u stopped get ripped off by dealers then maybe u can consider it till then do research, and build a strong natural foundation. It cost 49$ to get your test checked. And worried if your parents are gonna know???? Jus by that comment alone means no steroids 4 u!!

[thelazygent]

Your 2 young steroids are not going to give u discipline which u need. When Ur diet is 100% and u know what your natural test levels are and when u stopped get ripped off by dealers then maybe u can consider it till then do research, and build a strong natural foundation. It cost 49$ to get your test checked. And worried if your parents are gonna know???? Jus by that comment alone means no steroids 4 u!!

Listen dont assume I know nothing about things. Im not naive about this stuff. I have gotten my Test levels checked a couple of times and there pretty low considering my age. First time it was 233, then 400, and third time 400. The range they gave me was 250-1100. Considering that im 23 and Test is supposed to peak at my age I think its pretty low.

I havent gotten ripped off by dealers thats why im asking for Advice. I would be a fool not to ask other people thats why Im asking here. I didnt know i couldnt ask about pricing here my bad. Could someone message me that info please?

Im worried that my parents might find out cus theyll kick me out of the house and i dont have a good job to support myself, not because the sauce is bad for you. How does that mean I shouldnt do steroids? I could say the same to you. Your typing is terrible btw, so by your lack of grammar alone I should disregard your comments, because your not legit.

[thelazygent]

"If you a really trying to break this plateau you are claiming alcohol should be one of the things you cut back on or give up in general."

Im not looking to break any world records in powerlifting. I want to get stronger yes, but not freakishly strong. I hear drinking on injectables will effect your gains, but will not do damage to your personal health or liver. Is this true? I just want advice. If I shouldnt drink on Test E than I wont do it. I still want to be able to drink, but if its not advised then I wont do it.

[bigswoll]

Alright dik head im really sorry that i offended u with my grammar considering I'm texting on my iPhone to a guy who doesn't know a ****ing thing about aas( how was that grammar) 400 is not low u can still gain mass with those levels it's called discipline eating many good calories 6-8 times a day putting I'n 1.5 your body weight and 3 times I'n carbs it's called lifting heavy 8-10 reps 3-4 sets per body part and making sure u give 100% then when u can't go no more then consider aas. U can disregard my comments all u want over my grammar lol but Ur not a trainer\bodybuilder. Your a kid who needs to do research and realize that your getting ripped off at that price and still lives home with mommy. Jus ask her to cook alot of Chkn and sweet potato u Shud be good

[songdog]

Bro you are to young to be cycling and beacuse of the dangers to the under age.We dont offer cycle advice.

[traindude]

Will I get too big? I live with my parents, so will it be obvious to them that im Juicing?

Well man,your parents will love you,trust me...

Keep reading,we are young

[traindude]

Your 2 young steroids are not going to give u discipline which u need. When Ur diet is 100% and u know what your natural test levels are and when u stopped get ripped off by dealers then maybe u can consider it till then do research, and build a strong natural foundation. It cost 49$ to get your test checked. And worried if your parents are gonna know???? Jus by that comment alone means no steroids 4 u!!

Man,for real,what is the perfect age for a young bodybuilder who wants to be a pro to start take steroids?

I want to be a pro,but I'm young,I do not want to take any steroids now,but is it a good idea that I start to take steroids when I am 21 years old?

I'm serious...

[traindude]

Listen dont assume I know nothing about things. Im not naive about this stuff. I have gotten my Test levels checked a couple of times and there pretty low considering my age. First time it was 233, then 400, and third time 400. The range they gave me was 250-1100. Considering that im 23 and Test is supposed to peak at my age I think its pretty low.

I havent gotten ripped off by dealers thats why im asking for Advice. I would be a fool not to ask other people thats why Im asking here. I didnt know i couldnt ask about pricing here my bad. Could someone message me that info please?

Im worried that my parents might find out cus theyll kick me out of the house and i dont have a good job to support myself, not because the sauce is bad for you. How does that mean I shouldnt do steroids? I could say the same to you. Your typing is terrible btw, so by your lack of grammar alone I should disregard your comments, because your not legit.

Man,tell me you want to be a pro bodybuilder?

[traindude]

Listen dont assume I know nothing about things. Im not naive about this stuff. I have gotten my Test levels checked a couple of times and there pretty low considering my age. First time it was 233, then 400, and third time 400. The range they gave me was 250-1100. Considering that im 23 and Test is supposed to peak at my age I think its pretty low.

I havent gotten ripped off by dealers thats why im asking for Advice. I would be a fool not to ask other people thats why Im asking here. I didnt know i couldnt ask about pricing here my bad. Could someone message me that info please?

Im worried that my parents might find out cus theyll kick me out of the house and i dont have a good job to support myself, not because the sauce is bad for you. How does that mean I shouldnt do steroids? I could say the same to you. Your typing is terrible btw, so by your lack of grammar alone I should disregard your comments, because your not legit.

Man,tell me you want to be a pro bodybuilder?

[JDBeretta]

I stopped reading at 'you'll put on 15lbs of solid muscle'.

You might put on 15lbs, but it will not increase your lbm by 15lbs.

And make sure you're in your mid 20s...

[Capebuffalo]

How many bodybuilding shows have you won to date. If you want to be a pro you obviously have been doing teen and jr shows and winning.

[thelazygent]

Alright dik head im really sorry that i offended u with my grammar considering I'm texting on my iPhone to a guy who doesn't know a ****ing thing about aas( how was that grammar) 400 is not low u can still gain mass with those levels it's called discipline eating many good calories 6-8 times a day putting I'n 1.5 your body weight and 3 times I'n carbs it's called lifting heavy 8-10 reps 3-4 sets per body part and making sure u give 100% then when u can't go no more then consider aas. U can disregard my comments all u want over my grammar lol but Ur not a trainer\bodybuilder. Your a kid who needs to do research and realize that your getting ripped off at that price and still lives home with mommy. Jus ask her to cook alot of Chkn and sweet potato u Shud be good

400 is low for my age. I am at my peak testosterone production. At about age 25 then my T goes down. Ill prob need test injections when im older and fall outta range. Most kids my age have test levels at 600-800.

If you consider heavy lifting 8-10 reps, your a dope. I always give 100%. Dont think Im some teen noob who buys Muscle Tech and thinks ill get big. My maxes (with perfect form) right now are B: 305 S: 425 D: 450. For someone who is natural, I think that is pretty fvcking good.

I do eat like a freak 6-8 a day, protein with every meal.

I believe I am at my genetic max. I have pleatued for 2 years. There comes a point where you just cant get any stronger, naturally. I think im at that point.

[songdog]

Man,for real,what is the perfect age for a young bodybuilder who wants to be a pro to start take steroids?

I want to be a pro,but I'm young,I do not want to take any steroids now,but is it a good idea that I start to take steroids when I am 21 years old?

I'm serious...

Beacuse if he was really interested in becoming a pro he wouldnt be out drinking 2 to 3 nites a week would he>

[Capebuffalo]

How many hours a day do you practice your posing? Which of the manditories is your best?

[thelazygent]

I am not a bodybuilder nor want to be one. I competed in a couple powerlifting comps, but dont want to be the best. I just want to be stronger and look good for the summer. I know that if I drink i wont be maximizing results while on the sauce. Iv been told that millions of fvckin times. My Q is if drinking on the sauce is DETRAMENTAL TO MY HEALTH?

[bigswoll]

No u won't die drinking on juice however on juice at your age there's a chance you can permanently damage yourself for good. Your friends are not natural at 6 to 8pm levels if u wanna look good for summer up your reps lean out and there's your beach body and u can still drink your coronas. If you don't wanna be a pro bodybuilder then there's no need to get on aas and risk permanent damage. And if your 23 and Platued for 2 yrs now and u have a natural test level of 400 then your doing something wrong!!!!! Don't be lazy build a great natural foundation save your money get a personal trainer and GROW. For Fuk sake u still live home with your parents. You have no stress no kids no wife no mortgage. You can focus 100% on eating and training. I bet all of us wish we were I'n your shoes. Buckle down and grow. If u want list your diet and the supplements your currently taking. I think your name thelazygent explains it all

[Capebuffalo]

[QUOTE=thelazygent;5984677] I competed in a couple powerlifting comps, but dont want to be the best. I just want to be stronger and look good for the summer.

I want to be a pro,but I'm young,I do not want to take any steroids now,but is it a good idea that I start to take steroids when I am 21 years old?

I don't understand. You don't want to be the best but you want to be a pro?

[thelazygent]

"I want to be a pro,but I'm young,I do not want to take any steroids now,but is it a good idea that I start to take steroids when I am 21 years old?"

i never said this. This was someone else

[cebby1985]

I didnt read much of this thread but when i saw "23 yrs old and my parents would.kick me out and i cant support myself" tells a lot about you. youre 23, you live at home, cant suppirt yourself but you wanna be pro?

I lol at your work ethic.

[bigswoll]

So now u wanna be a pro i thought u were 23 now 21

[thelazygent]

Your confusing me with another poster. I am 23 and DO NOT WANT to be a Pro Bodybuilder.

WTF the big deal with living at home? Im getting my Grad Degree for Accounting so I can get my CPA, so dont think im some fvcking bum who cant take care of myself.

[thelazygent]

Like people who are 23 and are still in school cant have hard work ethics. because they live with their parents.

[elitetky]

thelazygent, if your interested pm me.
I can hook you up with test e nolvadex or letrozolo at reasonable price.
cheers!

[traindude]

How many bodybuilding shows have you won to date. If you want to be a pro you obviously have been doing teen and jr shows and winning.

Sadly,I started bodybuilding when I was 17 years old...that's too late?I dont think so.

[traindude]

"I want to be a pro,but I'm young,I do not want to take any steroids now,but is it a good idea that I start to take steroids when I am 21 years old?"

i never said this. This was someone else

I said bro.

[bigswoll]

Elite your gonna get off for that shit

[traindude]

How many hours a day do you practice your posing? Which of the manditories is your best?

I'm pretty sure I can do what you said,be a pro isn't easy to say the least,but we gonna try,right?
anyway,thanks bro.

train hard & be strong

[traindude]

[QUOTE=Capebuffalo;5984863]

I competed in a couple powerlifting comps, but dont want to be the best. I just want to be stronger and look good for the summer.

I want to be a pro,but I'm young,I do not want to take any steroids now,but is it a good idea that I start to take steroids when I am 21 years old?

I don't understand. You don't want to be the best but you want to be a pro?

No,man.You were wrong.
"I want to be a pro,but I'm young,I do not want to take any steroids now,but is it a good idea that I start to take steroids when I am 21 years old?"
this is my Q.
"I competed in a couple powerlifting comps, but dont want to be the best. I just want to be stronger and look good for the summer."
this is thelazygent's

Maybe I should start a new thread...Sorry for confusion..

[JDBeretta]

What a retarded thread.

[Capebuffalo]

Sorry lazygent. I got completely confused and derailed during your post. If you run your cycle be dedicated to diet and training. An drink every so often won't kill you. But if it affects training and diet stop drinking completely. Sorry again I think I was part of the confusion.