Unusual INABILITY to gain weight...

[Alpha-Male]

I realize this isnt the HRT forum, however, I know posting this in there will likely lead to negative feedback...anyhow, I historically respond extremely well, even to low doses of test, i.e., 200mg/wk (TRT)...anyhow, over the past few weeks, I have been taking Enanthate from Watson, straight from the local pharmacy, and for some odd reason, I can't seem to put on the weight that I usually do...I have been stuck at 215-220 for about 3-4 weeks now...diet the same as always, training the same, I am starting to have panic attacks that potentially, I have some sort of medical issue, God forbid, or possibly this stuff isn't very potent? I am going next week to have bloodwork to see where my levels stand currently, but am thinking of going through my Doctor's compounding pharmacy like I did previously, as I absolutely responded as expected from that stuff last year...long story short, anyone had issues similar to this???

AM

[Alpha-Male]

I should also add that for the past two weeks, out of frustration, I have resorted to 1cc monday and thursday (i know, NOT HRT), but in an attempt to see if this Watson stuff is possibly underdosed???

[OnTheSauce]

Same diet.... up the cals. What u ate at 210 to gain weight won't be the same at 220

[Alpha-Male]

Well, I agree to a certain extent, however, i've been using since 1994, so I know my body pretty well, and even if it's just water weight mostly, I know that last year, when starting TRT, I went from 220-225 to about 245 in a month or so, with not much adjustment to diet/training...again, I realize a good bit of water there, but still, I should be popping outta my shirts about now I can say that strength has gone up, but that makes it even more perplexing I suppose...

[< <Samson> >]

How are you doing with TRT for this long?

Kinda off subject, but I really wanna know.

[Alpha-Male]

Well, I have actually started it, and stopped, a few times over the past couple of years...not ideal, but it is what it is...I just recently began again back in February...and that is the strange thing...my first two 5cc bottles of this Watson stuff and things seemed to be going as planned, slowly gaining weight and such and having others notice, then, for the past few weeks on my second batch, and I actually lost weight, and slowly returned to 220, but cant seem to break it, and that is WAY off, for me at least...but to answer your question, I respond pretty well, get my numbers up close to 900-1000 ng/ml or so, throw in some arimidex if my estradiol gets outta hand, run 500iu of hcg two days before and the day before, and typically have great results...but now, i'm not sure, first time with Watson so I'm leaning that way, but again, I don't know...

[Alpha-Male]

Hmm, well, I just read an older post where someone seemed to be having the same issues with Watson Enanthate, from a major pharmacy...I just emailed my Doc and asked him to change it over to Cypionate, after I get some follow-up bloodwork done this week to see where my levels are at. (there was a reply on that thread where someone was using the Watson Cyp and having outstanding (NORMAL) results...still, any other feedback/opinions here much appreciated...

[songdog]

I agree you need to up thr cals bro.

[Alpha-Male]

Eh, not really the main idea here, but...

Been awhile since i've been on, there a particular forum to ask about a specific brand of test, like this Watson junk? Or okay to post here???

[JohnnyVegas]

Watson from the pharmacy isn't junk. You will not find a more consistently dosed drug than a true pharmaceutical.

You say strength is up. Maybe you have lost fat and gained muscle. That has happened to me many times in the past. There have been times that I gained ten pounds of muscle and lost ten pounds of fat. The scale hardly moved the entire time.

[Alpha-Male]

Well, I was thinking of that also, however, going by past experience, unless I'm dieting properly, I tend to pack on quite a bit of weight fairly quickly, and yes, a good amount of water weight as well...not that it's the look i'm going for, but since I have been out of the gym and proper training for a few years, I was wanting to pack it on in order to shred it off later...anyhow, I Google'd "watson enanthate unable to gain weight", or something to that effect, and a thread from a few months ago, here on AR, popped up, and a couple of people had experienced similar issues, with the enanthate ester only...they stated that the watson cyp was working just fine, but I tend to shy away from cyp because it breaks me out more than usual, and prop is too damn painful for me to bear anymore I spoke with my doc and he agreed, going to get some bloodwork done monday, see where things stand, go from there...he has no problems calling in the cyp if I want, I just don't understand what the problem may be...and strength is slowly climbing, could just be that I havent worked out in awhile too...just not getting that good ole feeling, if that makes sense...